# Trifecta of light + wide + bi(metal) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [July 31, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665 "2022-07-31T22:13:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mep/32/79842_2.png) [@Mep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mep)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/1 "2022-07-31T22:13:28Z")
I’m on a hunt for what I think is the perfect yoyo for my preferences. It’s hard to describe, but let me try. **Edit** : skip to the [summary chart I made here](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/73)! ![yoyos](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/d/7/ad7d85f01ce9c12a9b8d67778e3442ee78e9b7c4.jpeg) If I try to boil it down to specs: - Outer ring bimetal - Comfortable shape - 55-57mm diameter - 45-46mm width - \<63g weight **Here’s the catch**. We all know that how a yoyo feels doesn’t strictly correspond with its weight. So I’d say I’m looking for something that feels fast and light, rather than rely solely on the weighing scale. Well I certainly can’t try every yoyo to see how each feels, so I’d love to hear which ones you may have tried that sounds about right! 2 hard to describe things I’m looking for: - The **ease of movement** in Float, Hummingbird, Peregrine or Krown Ti - The **squeaky clean bind** of Chopsticks Gorilla or MCMO. Works great with normal thickness string. I know some folks love super thick string, but I’m happy rolling with Draken or Kitty Fat most days > [@Mep](#): > > I’m not looking for a list of yoyos that fit those specs. I’ve already spent hours going over them. > > What I’m looking for is your actual experience playing with those yoyos. Specifically the ease of movement and the binds. If you own a Peregrine or Chopsticks or Float… Have you played something like a Peregrine with a more comfortable shape and tighter binds? Or a Chopsticks that is lighter and wider? Or a bimetal Float? ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/2 "2022-07-31T22:20:41Z")
The closest to those specs that I’ve personally played would be: > **[Peregrine](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/peregrine-yoyo-by-yoyofriends?variant=41658409943230)** > > The latest release form YoYoFriends is an all-out competition design fittingly named after one of the most powerful birds of prey - This is the Peregrine! The Peregrine was created based on the input of every yoyofriends team member. Clean lines and... ---
**Author:** ![pinhead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pinhead/32/123421_2.png) [@pinhead](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pinhead)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/3 "2022-07-31T22:23:12Z")
> **[Exia](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/exia-yoyo-by-mk1?variant=41348214390974)** > > Mk1 YoYos is a newer company that has really established itself in the yoyo community with some impressive designs. Their latest release is an inner-ring bimetal yoyo created with 7068 aluminum and steel rings - The Exia! The core idea of the Mk1... Another that’s close enough. ---
**Author:** ![Mep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mep/32/79842_2.png) [@Mep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mep)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/4 "2022-07-31T22:24:52Z")
Thanks! Indeed I love my Peregrine. The specs were what really caught my attention as well. The main things I’m looking to improve on it are the shape/catch, which can be a little sharp and uncomfortable sometimes, and the bind which isn’t as tight as the Chopsticks. The weight of it (feel-wise, regardless of grams) is very close to what I’m looking for though. Something like the Peregrine or Hummingbird in terms of how heavy it feels on the string. ---
**Author:** ![pinhead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pinhead/32/123421_2.png) [@pinhead](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pinhead)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/5 "2022-07-31T22:30:14Z")
> **[Hydrogen Crash](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/hydrogen-crash-yoyo-by-c3yoyodesign?variant=41507143614654)** > > The new C3yoyodesign Hydrogen Crash is the latest in their ever growing CRASH Series that features a wide array of models. Hydrogen Crash features a wide H-shape profile with bi-metal construction. The broad Stainless Steel rims extend to increase... > **[GTR-JS](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/gtr-js-yoyo-by-duncan?variant=41128908718270)** > > From Duncan: Have you seen team member Jonathan Sitanggang’s tricks lately? I mean, COME ON. This dude plays yo-yo like a river flowing steadily through a tranquil countryside: His tricks are elegant, entrancing, yet undeniably forceful; A beautiful... > **[Kenshin Kiwami](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/kenshin-kiwami-yoyo-by-sengoku?variant=38002361598142)** > > Named after one of the most notable Samurai leaders, Uesugi Kenshin, the original Sengoku Kenshin was the first mono-metal design from Sengoku. Building on that design is their latest release - The Kenshin Kiwami! The Bimetal Kenshin Kiwami... > **[Orbital GTX](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/orbital-gtx-yoyo-by-duncan)** > > From Duncan: As tricks evolve, so do yo-yos. The new Orbital GTX is one of our wildest competition-oriented designs. It’s wide, powerful and floaty, and it doesn’t end there. While this updated version is bigger compared to the 2017 Orbital, we were... > **[Progressiver](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/progressiver-yoyo-by-c3yoyodesign?variant=41283544023230)** > > The latest release from C3yoyodesign is a new high-end model designed for high speed and easy control - The Progressiver! First released in their Black Friday Cyber Monday Super Pack, the Progressiver was built for contest players who demand extreme... More options ---
**Author:** ![Mep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mep/32/79842_2.png) [@Mep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mep)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/6 "2022-07-31T22:30:30Z")
The Exia isn’t an outer ring and its gap width strikes me as something that pairs better with super thick string, no? I should add that I’ve also noticed the C3 Hydrogen Crash given its specs. However it seems like binds on it can also be slippy. ---
**Author:** ![pinhead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pinhead/32/123421_2.png) [@pinhead](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pinhead)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/7 "2022-07-31T22:32:12Z")
I haven’t used any of these, I’ve just been looking at ones that fit your description in terms of dimensions, and weight. ---
**Author:** ![Mep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mep/32/79842_2.png) [@Mep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mep)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/8 "2022-07-31T22:33:31Z")
Thanks man, but respectfully I’m not looking for a list of yoyos that fit those specs. I’ve already spent hours going over them. What I’m looking for is your actual experience playing with those yoyos. Specifically the ease of movement and the binds. Those are the harder questions to answer beyond the spec sheet. ---
**Author:** ![Shwa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shwa/32/108351_2.png) [@Shwa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shwa)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/9 "2022-07-31T22:36:54Z")
You want to try IQ. I have one in the BST right now. Green orange splash. I won this one and liked it so much I picked up a grey/blue simply for color preference. Hit me up. > **[iQ](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/iq-yoyo-by-yoyofactory?variant=40945555505342)** > > From YoYoFactory: Sometimes it's best to start with a blank canvas. We have SO MUCH design heritage to draw on to produce something new, but rarely do we start a project that isn't tightly aligned with a single player, something competitors could use... ---
**Author:** ![Mep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mep/32/79842_2.png) [@Mep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mep)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/10 "2022-07-31T22:39:50Z")
I’ve looked at the IQ before but nothing really stood out. Can you compare its weight-feel and binds to any of these yoyos? Peregrine Chopsticks Krown Ti ---
**Author:** ![Shwa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shwa/32/108351_2.png) [@Shwa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shwa)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/11 "2022-07-31T22:45:06Z")
I’ve only played the Peregrine. I traded it away because I preferred the hummingbird. Both are a little harsher on the catch. iQ has to be one of the most comfortable throws to catch. It just fits in your palm. IQ is smooth and stable on the string. Very controllable and forgiving. EASY to play and can be pushed if you choose. I’m not fast by any means but this yo-yo plays! It’s fun and dare I say a little floaty. ---
**Author:** ![danotje](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/danotje/32/184345_2.png) [@danotje](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/danotje)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/12 "2022-07-31T23:25:16Z")
I agree. The iQ is wider than your specs, but fits the rest. Super stable, feels light, can be pushed or chill, and is just a great throw. Between it and the Vulture (not as chill, but just as great), they have dethroned the Iceberg as my favorite. I use Project 44 Fat12 in green with it, and it’s just the perfect combo for me. ---
**Author:** ![JEA86](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jea86/32/288088_2.png) [@JEA86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JEA86)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/13 "2022-07-31T23:35:08Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/9/3/c93fbe1b4083cca211909c045bd36791a3a738db.jpeg) Just gonna leave this here - Motion YoYo - Centrifugal 57x46 - 63 grams :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Mep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mep/32/79842_2.png) [@Mep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mep)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/14 "2022-08-01T00:36:13Z")
Cool specs, but we know specs don’t tell the whole story. Does it play lighter/heavier than the Hummingbird? How are the binds? ---
**Author:** ![Mep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mep/32/79842_2.png) [@Mep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mep)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/15 "2022-08-01T00:40:00Z")
> [@danotje](#): > > Super stable, feels light, can be pushed or chill Thanks, are you able to compare the weight-feel & binds to anything I’ve listed? Float, Hummingbird, Peregrine, Krown Ti, etc. ---
**Author:** ![JEA86](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jea86/32/288088_2.png) [@JEA86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JEA86)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/16 "2022-08-01T00:41:16Z")
Plays a tad heavier than the hummingbird- about the same as the peregrine weight wise with a ton more power. Binds are crispy. ---
**Author:** ![suspense](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/suspense/32/178499_2.png) [@suspense](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/suspense)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/17 "2022-08-01T01:23:17Z")
I have all the Duncan Bi-metals except the grasshopper. However I haven’t tried what you listed as a comparison. This is more a comparison between what Duncan has to offer to help you narrow it down. Out of their offerings, I would suggest the Orbital GTX. It’s the lightest feeling and fits your criteria, it’s wide, feels extremely light and nimble on the string, and has massive outer rims. The only caveat is, it needs different pads, I think the stock ones are a bit slippy imo. However I do have mine strung up with duncan poly bulk string and it binds snappy after silicone recessing it. I would try to hit up the BST, you’re sure to find one for cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Mep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mep/32/79842_2.png) [@Mep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mep)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/18 "2022-08-01T01:50:49Z")
Nice, thanks! This is exactly the type of info I was looking for. I’m certainly open to trying different pads. Maybe the YYR ones since I love the Chopsticks response. I am curious how the Orbital GTX compares in terms of weight-feel versus the Hummingbird or Peregrine though… if anyone here has tried both. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/19 "2022-08-01T01:53:04Z")
Word of warning - Orbital gtx is very pointy on the catch. Plays really good otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Mep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mep/32/79842_2.png) [@Mep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mep)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665/20 "2022-08-01T01:55:45Z")
Thank you, I’m glad you told me. Wouldn’t have figured that from solely the photos. Still intriguing but maybe not numero uno. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta-of-light-wide-bi-metal/360665.md?page=2)