# Trick speed **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [February 25, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875 "2025-02-25T14:25:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/1 "2025-02-25T14:25:37Z")
iyo does every trick need to be performed as fast as possible? as i watch more and more ppl do tricks i see some that seem to do every trick as fast as they possibly can. I’m of the opinion that tricks all have different pacing that works for it. some tricks kinda need the flow or have technical elements that get lost in the blur. also, I’m always thinking about the perspective of the uninitiated. if every trick is just a blur and then a bind, im not confident ppl will be as interested. they might be impressed by the speed, but nothing else about the trick will matter which i feel sells some tricks short love to hear others’ thoughts ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/2 "2025-02-25T14:38:53Z")
I recently swapped to 0A. It forces me to slow down. Quite refreshing ---
**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/3 "2025-02-25T14:39:49Z")
Please refer to my usernames for my thoughts on the matter. ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/4 "2025-02-25T14:51:51Z")
I feel like the mentality for speed comes from competition where you want to slip as many tricks as possible in the short window of time allotted for your turn. I feel like it’s infinitely more enjoyable to watch a player do amazing tricks at slow and flowing pace. As for me…. The switch for my fast speed is broken. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/5 "2025-02-25T15:25:10Z")
More tricks can be squeezed in if people do them quickly. Other than that I would say that’s the only reason people do them fast in competitions. ---
**Author:** ![digitalcharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/digitalcharlie/32/234575_2.png) [@digitalcharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/digitalcharlie)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/6 "2025-02-25T16:00:39Z")
1. One of the primary mantras I live by is that slow is smooth and smooth is fast. It applies to a lot of things… but it really heckin’ applies to yoyos. If someone looks smooth as hell, they’re probably pretty quick – but not because they’re chasing speed. Just because how smooth they are lets them go more quickly. 2. Speed and momentum variation in tricks and elements is one of the things that really separates some of the top players for me. Folks who understand how changes to momentum can make tricks look more engaging are so impressive to me, and it’s something I want to learn (and have no idea how to learn except by emulating). Like, when I watch Jonathan Sitanggang I am consistently floored. Part of that is pauses/breathing room, but also: 3. There’s something to be said about how an element being the “same speed” can be really varied in itself — is it how fast the hands are moving? The yoyo? The pacing? What’s the difference between when the strings are fast moving but the yoyo is static, or when the strings are slow but the yoyo is moving fast, or any other variable combination? Combos that mix those elements up are really cool to me because it feels like there’s a consistent momentum that manifests in different forms. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeper80](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sleeper80/32/257936_2.png) [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/7 "2025-02-25T16:09:25Z")
Whatever makes the trick look best is probably the best speed to go for from my perspective, but competition creates a need to score more points faster and that can sacrifice presentation. ---
**Author:** ![GTDropKnot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gtdropknot/32/212400_2.png) [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/8 "2025-02-25T19:44:28Z")
Yeah I pretty much agree that tricks look the best when theyre done at whatever speed makes them look the best. Usually that is pretty fast though. Lots of slack elements look better not super fast. Speed is cool lol. I do think that with whatever speed, dynamic pacing is super important. Being able to speed up and slow down makes a huge difference in how a trick looks and really can craft a dope vibe. Takeshi is a master of this and just general yoyo goat. This video is worth watching to get a sense of how he adds dynamic pacing to tricks. This vid is also just one of my favorite vids like it’s so so so good lol [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/c/3/fc3d87076c68821d353c9fdefca28ea45fd0b94d.jpeg "One Way Ticket Grade5 - Turning Point (One Throw Freestyle)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3vFJaCxnrU) ---
**Author:** ![Ironical\_Monocle1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ironical_monocle1/32/244603_2.png) [@Ironical\_Monocle1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ironical_Monocle1)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/9 "2025-02-25T20:11:47Z")
![slow_down_speed_kills_yard_sign](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/b/3/4b343fcac0bf93591d9f519021432500a3178177.png) ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/10 "2025-02-25T20:45:48Z")
I try to do things fast and accurate and when I do I feel successful. I never perform for other people. I rarely watch competition videos because although I can appreciate the skill I am seeing I can barely tell what is going on! When I go slow I start to overthink and end up fumbling like with begleri - if I look at my fingers and hand and think about it - it goes flying three feet away. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/11 "2025-02-25T20:47:47Z")
Like giving a speech - speak fast and get a lot in but people will be like “what did he even say?” ---
**Author:** ![Blimpin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/blimpin/32/80496_2.png) [@Blimpin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Blimpin)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/12 "2025-02-26T01:24:27Z")
The point of yoyo is scoring points…and getting sponsored. ---
**Author:** ![Bobparty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobparty/32/302913_2.png) [@Bobparty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bobparty)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/13 "2025-02-26T01:27:32Z")
That video is awesome ---
**Author:** ![digitalcharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/digitalcharlie/32/234575_2.png) [@digitalcharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/digitalcharlie)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/14 "2025-02-26T11:18:55Z")
Takeshi makes so many difficult tricks look effortless and basically embodies the slow is smooth / smooth is fast thing. Like, he makes me think I can learn stuff way above my skill level and that’s really cool. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythm162](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rhythm162/32/311342_2.png) [@Rhythm162](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rhythm162)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/15 "2025-02-26T12:03:58Z")
Nah I love speed, angel2ups godspeed is essentially what got me into yoyoing too haha ---
**Author:** ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/16 "2025-02-26T12:22:41Z")
that’s totally fair, that trick was designed fast. would you want to see the same speed from a rancid milk for example? ---
**Author:** ![GTDropKnot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gtdropknot/32/212400_2.png) [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/17 "2025-02-26T12:42:07Z")
> [@Splizacular](#): > > would you want to see the same speed from a rancid milk Yes lol i want to see rancid milk as fast as possible personally ---
**Author:** ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/18 "2025-02-26T12:48:42Z")
interesting :thinking: that’s one i really like to see the flourish of the parts ---
**Author:** ![GTDropKnot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gtdropknot/32/212400_2.png) [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/19 "2025-02-26T13:21:08Z")
At the end of the day it’s preference so like yeah that’s cool lol i def prefer when all the steps are still included and totally prefer the trick with the two bounces at the beginning even though the second one isnt strictly necessary…I just think it looks cooler like that. My point is I def don’t mean to advocate for speed by sacrificing any elements, i just think it looks cool really fast and I cannot do it hella fast so I find it impressive hah! ---
**Author:** ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trick-speed/419875/20 "2025-02-26T13:39:33Z")
yea that’s interesting! really does illustrate just how much of yoyo and trick performance is personal. i tell ppl ask 10 players to do the same trick and you’ll see 10 different versions of the same thing