# Topyo Creater or Creator? Words are hard **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [October 17, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712 "2025-10-17T21:02:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wildo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wildo/32/668485_2.png) [@Wildo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Wildo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/1 "2025-10-17T21:02:41Z")
Hey yall, little help! When I got back into throwing I had a list of different throws to try, this one was on there. It’s a Topyo Creator, or at least that’s how it’s advertised on the web. Is creater a word? Spellcheck says, “Nahhhhh dawgggg”. Regardless, it’s a killer throw, came with a half speck in it. I think it’s awesome it’s spelled wrong. For reasons that aren’t even really clear to me. I wonder if there was a story behind it, or if it was an accident? Any info folks! ![IMG_1064](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/d/8/1d8e2b2866d05e4d8482b8ae5bd0e6206796541e.jpeg) ![IMG_1065](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/a/2/1a2b5317a2649715320bc284dba866242bdbf2e0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/2 "2025-10-17T21:13:05Z")
“Cree-ah-ter” lol I dig the misspelling too, gives it character haha. I’ve only had one topyo that I won in a give away, that I ended up gifting to someone else, a Colossus VII, it played great imo especially considering it retails for peanuts. ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/3 "2025-10-17T21:14:26Z")
The official name seems to have always been “Creater”. > **[TOPYO on Instagram: "#Repost from @lorenzyocubing with @regram.app ... Just...](https://www.instagram.com/topyo_official/reel/BebIYZxHrCc/)** > > 76 likes, 0 comments - topyo\_official on January 26, 2018: "#Repost from @lorenzyocubing with @regram.app ... Just got into yoyoing and need a beginner 1a yoyo? Then make sure you pick up a @topyo\_official Creater!!! This yoyo comes with a thin C... It does appear this way on non-English based sites. I wonder if “Creator” is an unintended spell-check. ---
**Author:** ![Wildo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wildo/32/668485_2.png) [@Wildo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Wildo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/4 "2025-10-17T21:17:10Z")
Right? I think originally these retailed for fourteen bucks or something? Things a beast. Super quick, super tight. It kinda reminds me of older yomega’s. Like their dash? Or maverick. A lot of fun. Hard to believe it’s a typo though. It’s weird, I watched a couple unboxing videos? Others are misspelled as well. I wonder if the maker did it just so people would ponder, wonder, and talk to strangers on the web bout it? 😁 Turns out it’s not misspelled at all, I suppose it has to be a word in order to have correct spelling :joy: ---
**Author:** ![Wildo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wildo/32/668485_2.png) [@Wildo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Wildo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/5 "2025-10-17T21:19:45Z")
Thanks for the info. You’re right for sure. It seems to be deliberate. I can only find a couple instances where it’s referred to as “creator” ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/6 "2025-10-18T01:08:49Z")
Creator is the proper spelling… > **[creator](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/creator)** > > 1. someone who makes something new: 2. a divine being who created someone or… > **[Definition of CREATOR](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/creator)** > > one that creates usually by bringing something new or original into being; especially Creator : god… See the full definition The correct spelling is “creator” because the word was adopted from Latin, which uses the “-tor” suffix to denote “one who does” something, rather than English which often uses “-er”. The Latin root is “creātor,” which comes from “creāre” (to create). A hypothetical English derivation would have led to “\*creater,” but because it was a borrowed word, it retained the Latin spelling. - [ **Latin origin** : ](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&sa=X&sca_esv=2dcedbab4ea1d2d3&biw=954&bih=752&q=Latin+origin&ved=2ahUKEwje8raHyKyQAxVHIzQIHX5JEPkQxccNegQIGRAD&mstk=AUtExfAeEXR5QX4UuNcitcJjoMkpFQtifzgVu4oymQkeDSTCerb7MlXWlgxjZ-824FJ_kUxMD0xiF3bnrblKbyDkQUZGdWcNXRRTmFz3nZ7nDLTcQ-BfDttRIzZcRwcY2hJnZUMig_z6jes0HUwjcNT_MD5dAPGDXka25IhDXYIJtROPMgyl1KkadTuU7REvWXWhwh98&csui=3) The word “creator” entered English from Latin, where it was spelled creātor. In Latin, the “-tor” ending signifies the agent, or the person who performs an action. - [ **Agent suffix** : ](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&sa=X&sca_esv=2dcedbab4ea1d2d3&biw=954&bih=752&q=Agent+suffix&ved=2ahUKEwje8raHyKyQAxVHIzQIHX5JEPkQxccNegQIbRAD&mstk=AUtExfAeEXR5QX4UuNcitcJjoMkpFQtifzgVu4oymQkeDSTCerb7MlXWlgxjZ-824FJ_kUxMD0xiF3bnrblKbyDkQUZGdWcNXRRTmFz3nZ7nDLTcQ-BfDttRIzZcRwcY2hJnZUMig_z6jes0HUwjcNT_MD5dAPGDXka25IhDXYIJtROPMgyl1KkadTuU7REvWXWhwh98&csui=3) The Latin creātor is formed from the verb creāre (“to create”) and the agent suffix -tor. - [ **English agent suffix** : ](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&sa=X&sca_esv=2dcedbab4ea1d2d3&biw=954&bih=752&q=English+agent+suffix&ved=2ahUKEwje8raHyKyQAxVHIzQIHX5JEPkQxccNegQIdhAD&mstk=AUtExfAeEXR5QX4UuNcitcJjoMkpFQtifzgVu4oymQkeDSTCerb7MlXWlgxjZ-824FJ_kUxMD0xiF3bnrblKbyDkQUZGdWcNXRRTmFz3nZ7nDLTcQ-BfDttRIzZcRwcY2hJnZUMig_z6jes0HUwjcNT_MD5dAPGDXka25IhDXYIJtROPMgyl1KkadTuU7REvWXWhwh98&csui=3) The English suffix “-er” is often used to create nouns for people who perform an action, as in “writer” (from “write”). However, since “creator” came from Latin, it kept its original form instead of being changed to a purely English-based derivation like “\*creater”. ---
**Author:** ![Wildo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wildo/32/668485_2.png) [@Wildo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Wildo)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2025, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/7 "2025-10-18T12:49:09Z")
Interesting. Food for thought, I’ve never meant anyone trying to be a “Content Creater” ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/8 "2025-10-19T09:38:06Z")
Well, all that being said… It’s time to consider another view… Creator by definition means somebody that creates. And since the people that made the yo-yo and named yo-yo, I would consider them, creators. And since they created the yo-yo and machined, the yo-yo and anodized the yo-yo and put a yo-yo up for sale… I would consider giving them the latitude, that using a logical and reasonable mind, it’s not very far-fetched that they should be allowed as creators, to create the name using a spelling that they are comfortable with for whatever reason. I’m not trying to create a problem for the creator, because he created the name Creater. Sometimes people do stuff for absolutely no apparent reason at all. For no functional, purposeful, meaningful purpose whatsoever. …. Kinda like this response when you think about it.🤓 ---
**Author:** ![Wildo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wildo/32/668485_2.png) [@Wildo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Wildo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/9 "2025-10-19T12:03:47Z")
So, it’s not mispelled? Latin or otherwise? That’s really what I meant, semantics maybe, but still interesting. Letters in groups that aren’t words are just that, not words. They may as well be crortea. It’s impossible to misspell something that doesn’t possess a correct spelling. That’s what’s I was trying to get at. Was the maker shooting for “creator” and something happened? Or was there an interesting story behind it. Maybe it was marketed/sold mainly in a different market? Or perhaps they knew exactly what they were doing. I’m not saying they spelled it wrong, I’m not taking anything away from the maker. I just thought it was interesting. I think it’s pretty cool it’s different. I was just wondering on the “why’s” that’s all. 😁 ![IMG_1067](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/f/3/8f30afc3812699cfd36a44b700e44adbfb914d76.png) ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/10 "2025-10-19T16:53:10Z")
I think “Creater” can be considered a proper name. Maybe it started as a mistaken spelling of “creator”, or maybe it was always intentional. Could be an inside joke, some kind of phoneticized version, a desire to disambiguate from the emerging concept of the online creator, necessary to distinguish from some other product from a similar timeframe, etc. Topyo is not likely focused on the (fluent) English speaking market. TopYo pairs “Creater” with “創世”, which seems (to a non-speaker) to be associated with the genesis of the entire world (though maybe not with divine connotation). ![creater](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/e/e/6ee1f419c69ecb3dde245551584e5a1f7c134e2f.png) Some contemporary names like “Colossus” don’t seem intended to be literal. The first version was 52.95 x 40.84mm & 66.7g. Was that colossal in 2017? Whatever the case, “Creater” has been the consistent spelling across 10+ posts from the topyo\_official IG account starting in 2017. The only exception is a re-post from a shop in Vietnam in 2019. A 2017 repost from a Czech store spells it “Creater”. FWIW: ![creater](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/b/6/0b66a2cd64cbc6ce99a063284a3729d0dc624443.png) ---
**Author:** ![Wildo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wildo/32/668485_2.png) [@Wildo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Wildo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/11 "2025-10-19T18:13:43Z")
I mean, you’re absolutely right. I guess I didn’t really think about it being an actual proper name of an item, not a place name rather. No, you’re absolutely right. Names don’t have to follow normal confines. It’s just an interesting thing to think about, ya know? If there were odd circumstances surrounding it. :thinking: Like I said, I never wanted to take anything away from the throw. I think it’s a great throw! Like another poster mentioned, for peanuts! Retailed for 16$? I paid like, 25 with shipping, taxes and the like via eBay, and I’m glad I did. I haven’t seen to many others pop up. I really only purchased it because I’d seen it mentioned on a Reddit post in regards to responsive throws, for the price, it seemed a throw worth exploring. ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/12 "2025-10-19T18:14:48Z")
This subject got me thinking about-what I would consider to be a prime example of someone who seriously had on their thinking cap when they landed on a name for something that has certainly survived the passing of time. A word that means exactly what it says. A word that sounds exactly the same as the original. And yet the word was spelled different deliberately, to identify it as distinctively exclusive to the product, and at the time not to be mistaken or substituted by any other. A product that didn’t necessarily change the world. Some ingenuity that didn’t necessarily qualify for a Nobel prize. But nonetheless, an idea that was turned into a product that definitely knocked the dust off a certain level of complacency that wasn’t really apparent until the product was actually released. I never did ask Frank how long it took him to come up with the name. Because way back then when he shook up some things in yo-yo land releasing his product we were all too busy just saying why in the heck didn’t we think of that? But I very clearly remember we were both heavy into modding way back then. Frank called me one day and said., ‘ hey Mo, I think I’ve landed on something. I’m gonna send you a few… Tell me what you think’? The KonKave bearing became a household name in the Yo-yo Universe. RIP Frank…. A true Mastermind. ---
**Author:** ![Wildo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wildo/32/668485_2.png) [@Wildo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Wildo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/13 "2025-10-19T18:17:14Z")
😢 I was sorry I never got the chance to really get to know him. We corresponded via email a few times, but that was it. ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/14 "2025-10-19T18:23:36Z")
I think Creater is very good as an unresponsive on the narrower side. I would not have been disappointed if I paid 2x or 3x the entry level oriented pricing. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/15 "2025-10-19T19:35:07Z")
> [@Wildo](#): > > I think it’s awesome it’s spelled wrong. For reasons that aren’t even really clear to me. I wonder if there was a story behind it, or if it was an accident? Any info folks! I talked to Topyo’s owner, he spelled it that way intentionally to make it easier to search for online, since “Creator” is very common. ---
**Author:** ![Wildo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wildo/32/668485_2.png) [@Wildo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Wildo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/topyo-creater-or-creator-words-are-hard/434712/16 "2025-10-19T19:49:35Z")
Thanks Mark! I appreciate the asking. I hope said person knows the inquiry was never negative. It was just curious and I couldn’t help but wonder about the different possible scenarios. That’s cool though man! Never thought I’d get the actual answer from Topyo themselves. 😁 Mystery solved