# Top 5 YYF and non-YYF yo-yos since 2010? **URL:** \ **Category:** Hans Van Dan Elzen\ **Created:** [November 6, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687 "2018-11-06T20:02:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/1 "2018-11-06T20:02:10Z")
Speaking of “modern” yoyos, from 2010 onward… What are your five favorite yoyofactory yo-yos released in 2010 or later? And what are your five favorite _non_ yoyofactory yo-yos released in 2010 or later? ---
**Author:** ![YOHANS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yohans/32/40176_2.png) [@YOHANS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOHANS)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/2 "2018-11-06T20:58:15Z")
My favorite Modern YYF yoyos are the WEDGE and the REPLAY. Both are two simple chunks of plastic that play WAY ABOVE their pricepoint. Shutter and EdgeBeyond. And of course the 888(yea I know pre-2010 but it was a benchmark design for the industry proving that smooth and precise was possible in mass-manufacturing) Two favorite non-YYF are Jeffrey Pang’s Skyva and iYOYO Firrox. Pivotal yoyo designs that moved the industry forward. Prior industry disruptors were the OXY, 3-in-1 No Jive, Brain, Proyo, Russell/Ives, Flores. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/3 "2018-11-06T21:05:06Z")
> [@YOHANS](#): > > My favorite Modern YYF yoyos Sooo… 1. Wedge 2. Replay 3. Shutter 4. Edge Beyond 5. 888 The 888 is kinda earlier but ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/6/d/46d0ef4cdf296fb72cd881070c20bbcc227b4a28.gif) > [@YOHANS](#): > > Two favorite non-YYF are Jeffrey Pang’s Skyva and iYOYO Firrox. Pivotal yoyo designs that moved the industry forward. Very cool but that’s only 2 of the 5 yo-yos since 2010… care to list 3 more 2010+ non-YYF releases that you’d say are favorites? 1. Skyva 2. Firrox 3. ??? 4. ??? 5. ??? Apologies, I can’t let you get off that easy! :wink: ---
**Author:** ![YOHANS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yohans/32/40176_2.png) [@YOHANS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOHANS)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/4 "2018-11-06T21:13:30Z")
Shinobu Nostalgia, Shinobu Card, SPYY Pistolero ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/5 "2018-11-06T21:22:27Z")
Not entirely sure those are 2010+ releases… - [The Card](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=2485) – 2008 world yo-yo mod contest - [The Nostalgia](https://docpop.org/2007/08/recap-of-the-wyycs-yo-yo-modifying-contest/) – 2007 world yo-yo mod contest - [Pistolero](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=1229) – seems [to date from 2009](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spyy-pistolero/988) ---
**Author:** ![YOHANS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yohans/32/40176_2.png) [@YOHANS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOHANS)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/6 "2018-11-06T21:36:41Z")
What year IS THIS? Where am I? ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/7 "2018-11-06T21:45:15Z")
Hans’ difficulty in coming up with recent yoyos suggests he’s simply not into modern throws! ---
**Author:** ![SleepyPete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@SleepyPete](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SleepyPete)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/8 "2018-11-06T22:05:19Z")
Hans, when you produced the original Cold Fusion could you envision a future when most pro throws cost $100+? ---
**Author:** ![YOHANS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yohans/32/40176_2.png) [@YOHANS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOHANS)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/9 "2018-11-06T22:05:40Z")
@zslane I gave examples of modern disruption. Not my fault the industry keeps re-popping the same ideas from the benchmark products presented in 2007. I crave genuine innovation and take note when it presents itself. My experience is not within the last weeks, months or years. I reference in decades and centuries. It’s not that I’m out of touch with them, It’s that I’m not very excited by them. ---
**Author:** ![YOHANS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yohans/32/40176_2.png) [@YOHANS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOHANS)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/10 "2018-11-06T22:09:26Z")
@SleepyPete The Cold Fusion pushed the industry forward and the pricepoint grabbed everyone’s attention. There are now examples of contest wins with $16 yoyos up to ~$100 yoyos. Excellent examples across the price range. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/11 "2018-11-06T22:14:27Z")
OK, so, just to be 100% clear… the _only_ two non-YYF yo-yos released since 2010 that you’d consider notable are 1. Skyva 2. Firrox No love for 2013’s Draupnir, eh? :wink: ---
**Author:** ![YOHANS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yohans/32/40176_2.png) [@YOHANS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOHANS)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/12 "2018-11-06T22:48:36Z")
I have a Draupnir. If I remember history correctly Ben was the first in line to purchase one (#hipster). No top level player is using this in the competitive arenas (not even the Japanese). It doesn’t seem to be what the players are looking for ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/13 "2018-11-06T23:21:49Z")
> [@YOHANS](#): > > I have a Draupnir. If I remember history correctly Ben was the first in line to purchase one (#hipster). No top level player is using this in the competitive arenas (not even the Japanese). It doesn’t seem to be what the players are looking for ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ Somebody is going to win a YYF prize for Best question. I think Hans should win something for Best answer. And codinghorror and zslane should share an award for ‘Trying to Stump the Pro’. Amazing… ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/14 "2018-11-07T00:21:53Z")
I’m not eligible for any of these prizes because we are a vendor (forum software). Nor do I want to be! I’m just curious 🐈 It is _very interesting_ that only two yoyos (outside of the YYF stable) released since 2010 are considered YoHans notable… ---
**Author:** ![NoT\_ATHROWER](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/not_athrower/32/14242_2.png) [@NoT\_ATHROWER](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NoT_ATHROWER)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/15 "2018-11-07T01:06:09Z")
Horizon Shutter Edge beyond Cold fusion Replay Pro ---
**Author:** ![Theolodger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theolodger/32/65462_2.png) [@Theolodger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Theolodger)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/16 "2018-11-29T11:23:39Z")
> [@Top 5 YYF and non-YYF yo-yos since 2010?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/14): > > I’m not eligible for any of these prizes because we are a vendor (forum software). Nor do I want to be! I’m just curious cat It is very interesting that only two yoyos (outside of the YYF stable) released since 2010 are considered YoHans notable… **I’m** not eligible because **we** are a vendor? Weird… can you split in two, @codinghorror? ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/17 "2018-11-29T11:34:41Z")
Well, the company I am a part of. [Who is Discourse? | Discourse - Civilized Discussion](https://discourse.org/team) ---
**Author:** ![Theolodger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theolodger/32/65462_2.png) [@Theolodger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Theolodger)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/top-5-yyf-and-non-yyf-yo-yos-since-2010/294687/18 "2018-11-29T13:33:25Z")
I see…