# Tom Kuhn website / brand in decline? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [December 21, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-website-brand-in-decline/296513 "2018-12-21T22:39:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-website-brand-in-decline/296513/28 "2019-01-04T09:36:49Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Website is now back, at least! Errr not any more. Same error from screenshot in first post is back for more than a day now. 😐 ---
**Author:** ![shatterFX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shatterfx/32/66476_2.png) [@shatterFX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shatterFX)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-website-brand-in-decline/296513/29 "2019-01-04T10:09:42Z")
Their latest FB posts: ![Screenshot_20190104-050854_Facebook](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/8/d/68d5a64cb197971fe43dbe723e999fbef5ec01f5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-website-brand-in-decline/296513/30 "2019-01-14T07:03:49Z")
Website is up, but almost nothing is in stock. Of the wood yo-yos – and wood is the _bread and butter of Tom Kuhn in my opinion_ – there is exactly one, _ONE_ model in stock: the Woody! ☹ That is literally it. On the metal side, things aren’t much better, but the SB-2 which is their other major classic does seem to be somewhat more available at least. I hope these guys can turn it around … cc @AaronW ---
**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-website-brand-in-decline/296513/31 "2019-01-14T11:41:32Z")
For years they have been sitting on a literal pile of old SB-2 (and Pocket Rocket) parts left over from the last boom. They waaaaaay over-ordered right before the market evaporated and kind of never recovered from that. Brad sold all of his wood-working equipment over a decade ago, so he has to order new wood parts from the mill. When they sold runs of other wood yo-yo’s, it’s been from old stock or refurbished seconds. The Batik/No Jive 3 (barf) was literally a Redline with new graphics. It’s a lot more expensive to redesign a yo-yo than it is to change the aesthetics. The number of NEW designs they’ve done since 2004 or so is right around… um… ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-website-brand-in-decline/296513/32 "2019-01-14T11:47:59Z")
This thing? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/5/c/85c2bde216b1aa4a528da6d82219556b7feea088.jpeg) [http://www.theyoyomuseum.com/museum\_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=495](http://www.theyoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=495) ---
**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-website-brand-in-decline/296513/33 "2019-01-14T12:22:41Z")
Lol yeah. I have around 90 No Jives in my collection. That’s the only one I’ve declined to buy on moral grounds lol. ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-website-brand-in-decline/296513/34 "2019-01-14T14:36:04Z")
> [@edhaponik](#): > > That’s the only one I’ve declined to buy on moral grounds You mean you don’t have a bunch of those next to your collection of mint Yomega Panthers :wink: [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-website-brand-in-decline/296513.md?page=1)