# Tom Kuhn Appreciation thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Exhibition\ **Created:** [February 7, 2013, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173 "2013-02-07T12:26:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![jblack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c4cdca/32.png) [@jblack](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jblack)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/364 "2024-01-10T15:28:04Z")
And if IIRC the No-Jive 3 had a fixed gap, unlike the adjustable system in Sleep Machine and Roller Woody. I think No-Jive 3 was a misnomer (was there ever a NO-Jive 2?) and pretty quickly became the Redline series. ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/365 "2024-01-10T15:33:07Z")
It was a No Jive 3 in 1. Given that name because it can be assembled in 3 different configurations. Imperial, butterfly, and whatever one half facing one way and the other half facing the other way is called. šŸ˜:+1: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/d/0/2d03bd728890010e857d16b19e73591fea65a099.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Veedo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/veedo/32/242414_2.png) [@Veedo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Veedo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/366 "2024-01-10T15:45:33Z")
> [@Slestak75](#): > > whatever one half facing one way and the other half facing the other way is called. Patagonia. Errrā€¦ Pagodaā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![SML](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sml/32/221290_2.png) [@SML](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SML)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/367 "2024-01-10T15:46:40Z")
Yeah, itā€™s confusing. The ā€œMaple Leafā€ is the No Jive 1, the 3-in-1 is the 2ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![chrismacg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@chrismacg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrismacg)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/368 "2024-01-10T17:19:25Z")
> [@jblack](#): > > I think No-Jive 3 was a misnomer (was there ever a NO-Jive 2?) and pretty quickly became the Redline series. A few thingsā€¦ Tom Kuhn considered the No Jive 3-in-1 to be the second No Jive model. The original San Francisco Woodys are the first. I donā€™t believe that Tom Kuhn has a lot of input on the No Jive 3 design. The Redline (2003) predates the No Jive 3 (2007). I agree they are similar and I agree that the names of the non-adjustable-gap, wood halves, and bearing yo-yos from Tom Kuhn donā€™t make a lot of sense. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/369 "2024-01-10T18:27:38Z")
Is ā€œSan Francisco Woodyā€ the official name? Iā€™d love to hunt one of these down. Iā€™m assuming itā€™s a wood imperial shape. Would be fun to slowly break one in over years. ---
**Author:** ![SML](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sml/32/221290_2.png) [@SML](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SML)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/370 "2024-01-10T19:00:12Z")
The Maple Leaf and Woody have pictures on the YoYo Wiki: [https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Tom\_Kuhn\_No\_Jive\_Maple\_Leaf](https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Tom_Kuhn_No_Jive_Maple_Leaf) [https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Tom\_Kuhn\_No\_Jive\_Woody](https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Tom_Kuhn_No_Jive_Woody) The reproduction Maple Leaf (manufactured by Brad Countryman) can still be bought new if you know where to look, and Tom Kuhn currently sells a ā€œWoody 2023ā€ (also BC/Whatā€™s Next manufactured, I assume). The engraving is different, removing the ā€œNo Jiveā€ name but also including a hexagon around the infinity logo, as a pretty clear reference to the nut on a No Jive. (Uh, just not on the Woody or Maple Leaf version. The nut on the No Jive 2, aka the 3-in1, not to be confused with the No Jive 3, which, as weā€™ve established in the previous postsā€¦ etc., etc.) ---
**Author:** ![SML](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sml/32/221290_2.png) [@SML](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SML)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/371 "2024-01-10T19:49:53Z")
![IMG_7218](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/d/1/bd1fa494c3f87b97e64a40781e02f15310166ead.jpeg) Itā€™s been so much fun browsing everyone elseā€™s posts, and Iā€™m in envy of so many of the collections here, but I figure after making so many posts in the thread today I ought to share mine. The butterfly-configured No Jives are unlacquered clean machines. The Lightning is in there on a technicality because of the TK logo. @chrismacg 's rainbow collection in particular has reminded me how much I want a true TK laminate. (Telling myself that Hollywood Magic is responsible for the alignment of the halves is tempering the acquisition syndrome, but not by much!) ---
**Author:** ![Hungrymushroom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hungrymushroom/32/259613_2.png) [@Hungrymushroom](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hungrymushroom)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/372 "2024-01-10T20:26:17Z")
I donā€™t own a Tom Kuhn yet but hope to in the near future, Iā€™d like to get the pocket rocket first I think ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/373 "2024-01-10T20:29:22Z")
Check out the description on [this listing](https://www.ebay.com/itm/304974587228?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=kMJBD4_CStC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=8WJjIS3sT-K&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY). Pretty cool. Same price as the TK Mission Oneā€¦ decisions decisions. ---
**Author:** ![chrismacg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@chrismacg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrismacg)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/374 "2024-01-10T20:53:19Z")
> [@SML](#): > > @chrismacg 's rainbow collection in particular has reminded me how much I want a true TK laminate. Thanks, but I should let you know that the Laminate No Jives are a bit too heavy IMHO. Theyā€™re stunningly beautify but if youā€™re wanting a player youā€™ll find that you need to mod them a bit (a Duncan Friction sticker is ideal). The natural wood No Jives and engraved No Jives are much more fun (and the Clean Machine is above and beyond my fave). Great collection BTW. I think the Lightning counts as a Kuhn; it has his name on it. šŸ™‚ The Clean Machines are super hard-to-find these days. ---
**Author:** ![willfcc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/willfcc/32/248137_2.png) [@willfcc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/willfcc)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/375 "2024-01-11T21:36:25Z")
Someone scored a [box set on eBay](https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/145546747803?item=145546747803&rt=nc&_trksid=p4429486.m145235.l2565) yesterday. Listing ended with Buy It Now in 34 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/376 "2024-01-11T21:47:40Z")
I saw that! So did someone pay the $1,250 they were asking for? ---
**Author:** ![willfcc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/willfcc/32/248137_2.png) [@willfcc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/willfcc)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/377 "2024-01-11T22:24:10Z")
Looks like itā€¦ ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/b/6/1b6e6082ab7f45307b726d53f4068a2bbdde1082.png) ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/378 "2024-01-11T22:27:07Z")
Oh $1,235, thats right. I definitely thought that was going to stay on eBay for a while. Guess not. ---
**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/379 "2024-01-11T22:55:35Z")
![IMG_7175](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/e/a/8ea9bb201b6d466afb6db9a4c7c1dc9d8169f2ee.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![chrismacg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@chrismacg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrismacg)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/380 "2024-01-11T22:57:12Z")
Is that the new Silver Bullet that was teased on Facebook? ---
**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/381 "2024-01-11T23:04:37Z")
yeah iā€™m just trying it out and giving what feedback i can. having a lot of fun with it. iā€™m sure theyā€™ll put out more details on it soon. ---
**Author:** ![chrismacg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@chrismacg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrismacg)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/382 "2024-01-11T23:04:43Z")
Someone just told me thereā€™s a Tom Kuhn subreddit now. Not a lot of folks in there yet, but Iā€™ll be posting my TK Fieldguide content there. Reddit doesnā€™t limit my characters. [https://www.reddit.com/r/tomkuhn/](https://www.reddit.com/r/tomkuhn/) ---
**Author:** ![chrismacg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@chrismacg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrismacg)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/383 "2024-01-11T23:10:07Z")
> [@willfcc](#): > > Someone scored a [box set on eBay](https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/145546747803?item=145546747803&rt=nc&_trksid=p4429486.m145235.l2565) yesterday. Listing ended with Buy It Now in 34 minutes. Iā€™m not surprised that a mint Heirloom box went that quickly. With taxes thatā€™s got to be close to $1400. I think the previous box went for over $1100. Iā€™m wondering who scored the **[3-in-Wonder Flying Camel on Sunday for $50](https://www.ebay.com/itm/225949264013)**. I wonder if the seller is kicking themselves for taking that offer. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173.md?page=20)