# Tom Kuhn Appreciation thread

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Exhibition\
**Created:** [February 7, 2013, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173 "2013-02-07T12:26:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/323 "2021-09-24T15:47:02Z")

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I filled up a Heirloom box with a spectrum of No Jives the other evening. I thought I’d share some photos.

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/324 "2021-09-24T17:31:25Z")

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That’s a beautiful thing!! Wow.

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/325 "2021-09-24T18:03:11Z")

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Some Purgatory’s on eBay from a reputable dealer. Not sure if it’s a good price, but there are 5 available.

[https://www.ebay.com/itm/373700042204?hash=item5702421ddc:g:I-EAAOSwDuJhKM4Y](https://www.ebay.com/itm/373700042204?hash=item5702421ddc:g:I-EAAOSwDuJhKM4Y)

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/326 "2021-09-26T13:26:29Z")

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Nothing like cracking open an old no jive package!

Time to break it in!

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/327 "2021-09-29T18:14:37Z")

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I’m thinking about selling this zippered leather Tom Kuhn pouch. I heard that these were hard to come by, so does anyone on here know how much one of these is worth. Disregard the Shutter, I’m moving that one too. Here are a couple pics.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/d/1/bd1bbf91a99d4cfcd9951272f2a8bd59391c786d.jpeg)  
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**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/328 "2021-09-29T19:33:42Z")

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I decided to put together a swag bag of sorts including the pouch. What do you folks think is the best way to go about selling all of this gear?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/9/c/09ced0a599a8fdbb08a53fb746b241b19f3f5a9f.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/329 "2021-09-30T14:07:44Z")

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Can’t say I’ve seen the pouch before, but I suspect is is from the mid/late-2000s when Brad C. was doing a lot of “experimenting” with accessories for the brand. There were a lot of random offerings of different boxes, cases, etc. and I don’t believe any had the same level of workmanship as what came out of San Fran or even the late 90’s BC-era days. I am not sure where the market is for this type of thing at the moment (and TK prices appear down a bit on ebay), but I would guess somewhere around $40 at auction…

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**Author:** ![chrismacg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@chrismacg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrismacg)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/330 "2021-09-30T14:18:36Z")

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IIRC the pouches were sold with some of the laminate No Jives and Sleep Machines/Roller Woodys in the 2000s. I have a half dozen of these and they’re nice bags but not as sought after as the yo-yo holsters from Tom Kuhn that came with Silver Bullets and some SB2s.

I doubt you’d get $40 for the bag. I’d be willing to pay $20 for what you have in the photo and I’m primarily interested in the RD rings.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/331 "2021-09-30T16:23:37Z")

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> **[Museum of Yo-Yo History](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=3067)**
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> You have found the most comprehensive archive of yo-yo images, historical memorabilia, and information in the world. Whether you're a long-time yo-yo collector, or just looking for that long lost treasure from your childhood, this is the place. In...

> **[Museum of Yo-Yo History](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=2995)**
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> You have found the most comprehensive archive of yo-yo images, historical memorabilia, and information in the world. Whether you're a long-time yo-yo collector, or just looking for that long lost treasure from your childhood, this is the place. In...

Looks like some of the parts came from a Tom Kuhn “Performance Kit”. Original retail price for the leather pouch was $11.

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**Author:** ![jblack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c4cdca/32.png) [@jblack](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jblack)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/332 "2021-09-30T19:03:29Z")

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Thanks for the link - what I find particularly amusing is that your pouch and the one in the picture above appear to be 2 different sizes. QC was strong on that line…

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/333 "2021-09-30T20:05:40Z")

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There actually were two different sizes. These were released in about 2013 when I started working with the company. Brad had bought a ton of these pouches for cheap, had them engraved, and originally intended to sell them with yo-yos but ended up doing it as a separate item. The larger size, which were big enough to put a yoyo in, sold out pretty quickly, especially in brown. But the smaller “part/accessory” size he probably still has 1000 of.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/334 "2021-10-19T00:25:08Z")

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This era of No Jive (and Mandala) was super special. Been too long since I had this guy in my pocket.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/2/5/e25d9ea1c3ea0d39e1a699621699b9838263bfe3.jpeg)  
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**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/335 "2021-10-19T16:22:29Z")

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Stunningly gorgeous yoyo 😍

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/336 "2022-02-05T03:57:26Z")

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Until today I’d never seen a dark red metallic No Jive without cracked paint. This red colored No Jive was released in 2000 alongside the green and blue metallic yo-yos. The red paint had a production issue that lead to the paint cracking and the thought that I’d ever see one without cracks wasn’t even something I’d ever entertained.

Now I own one, and it’s never been thrown.

 ![FullSizeRender](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/3/b/e3b23aee627e04491c72b663687dc505f9b4bc25.jpeg)  
On the right is a typical specimen showing the cracked paint. On the left is the pristine, never thrown yo-yo that arrived today.

 ![IMG_1086](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/c/4/bc45ac15950accc9f5b9db7c07b4dcd495d9616b.jpeg)  
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Here you can see the metallic flakes in the pain that give these yo-yos their luster.

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Another shot of the typical cracking of the dark red paint.

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/337 "2022-02-05T04:10:51Z")

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Honestly i think the cracked finish looks sweet too though. It’s got character just like the cracks or “checking” that happens to vintage electric guitars with nitrocellulose finish. I dig it. But I like your pristine one too. Super cool.

I got my first no Jive a month ago and I continue to sometimes choose it over my other vintage throws that are ball bearing axles. There is something special about it. The weight. The bounce. It rocks.

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/338 "2022-02-05T20:24:07Z")

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Holy Heck - what fluffy cloud safe did that rare bird come from. Both of my red had significant cracking (now one is in Ed’s collection)

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/339 "2022-02-05T21:28:40Z")

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Yeah I confess I like the checking just because of its historical context (and kinda reminds me of a “relic’d” guitar/bass. BUT that thing looks amazing and I wish you luck keeping it in that shape!

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/340 "2022-02-05T22:50:27Z")

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He used Buy It Now on eBay last Sunday and got it for $29.

[https://www.ebay.com/itm/265526055874?hash=item3dd29613c2:g:QeoAAOSw7TRh9xp3](https://www.ebay.com/itm/265526055874?hash=item3dd29613c2:g:QeoAAOSw7TRh9xp3)

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/341 "2022-02-07T04:14:09Z")

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Wow lucky find!

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/tom-kuhn-appreciation-thread/49173/342 "2022-02-09T00:42:17Z")

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Rick Brough (@rickbr) has a fascinating history of the 1984 Olympic No Jive on the Yo-Yo Museum site. He’s uncovered a lot of details about the history of this unique No Jive. Worth a look.

[Tom Kuhn No Jive - Gold Medal LE (Model C) - prototype](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=3945)  
[Tom Kuhn No Jive - Gold Medal (Model F) - prototype](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=3943)

Also, here’s my 1984 Olympic No Jive. Finally I know why mine has a natural finish and an aluminum nut.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/7/0/d7080d974ac0fab46b316b87298502a24c8aa6f9.jpeg)

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