# To sleep, or ... not

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [May 15, 2026, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696 "2026-05-15T14:32:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![torg33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@torg33](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/torg33)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/1 "2026-05-15T14:32:49Z")

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At this point in my yoyo journey I wrap my bearing as many times as i need to, to make sleeping impossible. Although I appreciate the skill needed, mounting /1a type stuff is of 0 interest at this time & an unwanted “nap” can mess up what I’m trying to do. I like the feel of the yoyo rolling on the string. Speeding it up, slowing it way down, reading the speed, to the point of it barely making it back to my hand, or with a nice soft “plop”, is just so satisfying. That’s what puts a smile on my face - & that’s how I know I’m doing it right. Any1 else like me?

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**Author:** ![mkmavvl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mkmavvl/32/196606_2.png) [@mkmavvl](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mkmavvl)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/2 "2026-05-15T14:50:06Z")

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No matter how. If you’re having fun, you’re using it correctly. New playstyle: A “Plop” curator 🤣

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**Author:** ![bigstupidbees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bigstupidbees/32/210638_2.png) [@bigstupidbees](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bigstupidbees)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/3 "2026-05-15T15:19:47Z")

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I’m the total opposite! I love when it sleeps forever. I totally get it though, you just gotta do whatever’s fun!

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**Author:** ![nameless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@nameless](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nameless)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/4 "2026-05-15T19:00:13Z")

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Never tried doing more than a double wrap, but I can appreciate a highly responsive yoyo for 0a. Sleeping is not the only fun way to use a yoyo!

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**Author:** ![Flapjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/flapjack/32/698167_2.png) [@Flapjack](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Flapjack)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/5 "2026-05-15T19:09:18Z")

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How long have you been playing yo-yo? Do you do any looping tricks?

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**Author:** ![torg33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@torg33](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/torg33)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/6 "2026-05-15T19:51:13Z")

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20 years or so. Yes I quite like looping and hopping and … re-generations I think the term is.

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**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/7 "2026-05-15T19:56:24Z")

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For 0A, I add bearing wraps to tune the response, usually to the point of no sleep. I find it more convenient/reliable than messing with greases/lubricants. Plus, I can back off the wraps as needed if I want the yo-yo- to sleep.

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**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/8 "2026-05-15T20:02:48Z")

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Here is my Deepest State setup:

 ![tempImage49DeAd](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/b/b/0bbb5c1500a5cfd5745520f17d4c41315917d19f.jpeg)

Edit to add: still sleeping with 4 wraps!

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**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/9 "2026-05-15T20:03:43Z")

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What bearing do you use?

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**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/10 "2026-05-15T20:04:49Z")

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This is with the standard 10Ball.

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**Author:** ![AngryGumball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/angrygumball/32/683872_2.png) [@AngryGumball](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AngryGumball)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2026, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/11 "2026-05-16T03:47:18Z")

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For me, at least with 0a, I like to have some sleep but I also like the feel of as if the yoyo were on a rubber band - that cushy landing and springy snap back up when you call it…similar feel to a snappy wood fixed axle yoyo. It’s rare for me to add wraps to the bearing (I did this with my handquake 2, primarily because of the thicker wall between the bearing and response pad) and have only really done it to one of my yoyos…otherwise, my go-to is a silicone grease-packed bearing and in some cases, needing a sealed bearing for minimal re-greasing. Not so heavily packed that it dies out though, I need to at least be able to split the atom and end it with a loop

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**Author:** ![Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nic_from_adelaide/32/272038_2.png) [@Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nic_from_Adelaide)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2026, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/12 "2026-05-16T23:44:11Z")

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Cool, I love this style. There’s a few of us who lean heavily into no sleep and low RPM tricks, I’d recommend checking out these

> **[Jerrod Chitwood (@jerrodchitwood) • Instagram photos and videos](https://www.instagram.com/jerrodchitwood?igsh=OXhiN2w0enJjMjVu)**
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> 309 Followers, 225 Following, 111 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Jerrod Chitwood (@jerrodchitwood)

> **[OVERTINKERING (@overtinkering) • Instagram photos and videos](https://www.instagram.com/overtinkering?igsh=YWhyejM3b2R5Nm56)**
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> 286 Followers, 893 Following, 177 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from OVERTINKERING (@overtinkering)

> **[Eric (@stoneroxalot) • Instagram photos and videos](https://www.instagram.com/stoneroxalot?igsh=aTQ1eTBjMzg4dzVu)**
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> 405 Followers, 1,126 Following, 334 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Eric (@stoneroxalot)

> **[Nic (@cowclops24) • Instagram photos and videos](https://www.instagram.com/cowclops24?igsh=NjFwamx3aHdzeHlr)**
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> 226 Followers, 400 Following, 294 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Nic (@cowclops24)

It’s still May if you want to join us in the Bandalore 5A Challenge

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**Author:** ![Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nic_from_adelaide/32/272038_2.png) [@Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nic_from_Adelaide)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2026, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/13 "2026-05-16T23:49:42Z")

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> **[Nic on Instagram: "Bandalore set-up freehand yoyo...](https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXBqunpkd32/?igsh=MjZ5ZHBid2tqbnU4)**
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> 28 likes, 1 comments - cowclops24 on April 12, 2026: "Bandalore set-up freehand yoyo tricks
> \#bandalore5a
> \#freehandyoyo".

Search for #bandalore5a on whatever social you’re on

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**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/14 "2026-05-17T00:52:23Z")

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You need to get into fixie play my friend! Then you don’t even need to worry about bearings at all!

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**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/15 "2026-05-17T00:54:10Z")

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This is a great collab insta that isn’t active anymore but is a reference for great 0A tricks.

> **[BANDALORES (@bandalores) • Instagram photos and videos](https://www.instagram.com/bandalores/)**
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> 1,156 Followers, 133 Following, 106 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from BANDALORES (@bandalores)

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**Author:** ![torg33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@torg33](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/torg33)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/16 "2026-05-17T12:13:51Z")

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> [@Xanadu](#):
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> reference for great 0A tricks

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![torg33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@torg33](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/torg33)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/17 "2026-05-17T12:15:51Z")

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> [@Nic\_from\_Adelaide](#):
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> no sleep and low RPM tricks

Thanks very much! I figured there was a subset and thanks for the invite!

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**Author:** ![torg33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@torg33](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/torg33)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/18 "2026-05-17T12:40:18Z")

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> [@hsb](#):
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> still sleeping with 4 wraps!

i have to use 4 wraps on the turbo confusion, 3 on the Origen & 3 on the RBC. and it looks like you center the string too! Thanks very much for the reply!

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**Author:** ![Ucchy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Ucchy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ucchy)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/19 "2026-09-04T00:08:02Z")

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That’s a really interesting Deepest State setup.

I was also surprised that you can still get a decent sleep with 4 wraps!

What string are you using in the photo? I’d love to try the same setup.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-sleep-or-not/445696/20 "2026-09-04T00:40:27Z")

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I’m pretty sure that the string is Zipline Skyline III in “Highlighter”.
