# To get a metal or not to get a metal? That is the question. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [July 18, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822 "2010-07-18T02:46:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Yoyolunatic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyolunatic/32/482_2.png) [@Yoyolunatic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyolunatic)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/21 "2010-07-18T15:32:12Z")
I started off with a duncan mosquito and used that for about 2 months then it broke and i decided it was time to upgrade to a xconvict and i loved it for about another 2 months then i decided it was time to get some lube and a better yoyo, thus i got a lunatic and some lube.I droped some in al my yos and went back to the xconvict for a while(thin lube by the way) and Then traded my lunatic for a 888x and traded that for a protostar,hyabusa,and fhz(bad trade but i did it).And know i have a blue 888x 2 dv888s a lunatic and much more and ive been throwing about 6-7 months but im a quick learner ---
**Author:** ![RookieYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rookieyo/32/290_2.png) [@RookieYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RookieYo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/22 "2010-07-18T15:45:43Z")
Playing responsive helps you develop your yoyoing… And it will be much smoother in the future… People that buys metal too fast may learn faster because of longer spin time but the smoothness of the tricks is gonna be different… That’s my opinion and based on my survey… ---
**Author:** ![Amdroid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/amdroid/32/476_2.png) [@Amdroid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Amdroid)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/23 "2010-07-18T17:13:00Z")
I think a year is probably too long to wait, unless you are picking it up really slowly or never practicing. BUT, I do agree that people should wait SOME time before getting a metal. Oh ya, I think that all of those little steps up are CRAZY. You really don’t need to five different plastics to go from a complete beginner to a fairly experienced binder. I have a friend who I taught to yoyo. He started on my Hotshot, and borrowed all of my yoyos that I was not using as I got new ones. He then got his own metal, and you are right, he is not very smooth. I think it is not really about time, but how much you work and practice it. ---
**Author:** ![Yo\_Yo\_Ma\_X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yo_yo_ma_x/32/187_2.png) [@Yo\_Yo\_Ma\_X](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yo_Yo_Ma_X)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/24 "2010-07-18T17:36:29Z")
that is why i keep responsive bearings and unresponsive bearings (a little too few in this area now). unresponsive rocks for tricks, but when practicing, i used to bust out my xconvict and a responsive bearing. i can grind with it and do a few whips (not super unresponsive) and i feel like i am smoother. but i sold my xconvict to my friend and lost my protostar, so all i have left is generalyos and metals that i want to sell. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/25 "2010-07-18T17:41:12Z")
> [@Amdroid](#): > > You really don’t need to five different plastics to go from a complete beginner to a fairly experienced binder. Better 5 plastics than 1 metal of the same price. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![KageKira](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kagekira/32/498_2.png) [@KageKira](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KageKira)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/26 "2010-07-18T18:04:37Z")
> [@yomaster07](#): > > well I bought my first medal After 2 months of playing. Right now I am working on Advanced part2 and even some expert level tricks. It really helps me to have a yoyo that will spin for a long time. > > By the way my first medal was a ministar!!! Wait a minute…you said that you’re working on ADVANCED PART 2 but your favorite trick is Ladder Escape…which is in the MASTER section. I mean like…usually, people put their favorite tricks as tricks they can actually do. My favorite trick is Hiroyuki’s Circular Eli hops because I can totally do that… I think that people really shouldn’t buy medals early unless they are REALLY into it. I’d have to say I fell victim to the temptation of buying a medal early. I bought mine within my first month, but I was already learning Spirit bomb with a HAYABUSA and Velocity… ---
**Author:** ![x52](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/3bc359/32.png) [@x52](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/x52)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/27 "2010-07-18T18:08:02Z")
> [@Apetrunk](#): > > > [@x52](#): > > > > > [@Apetrunk](#): > > > > > > I think you last few people have missed out on the entire point on this thread. Sure you can get a metal when you want, but if you get it too early on, your throw will never really develop as much as it could and you won’t be anywhere near as smooth as you could and should be. > > > > > > You could also throw several, if not all, HG yoyos in there. SFHG baby! > > > > 😛 Discontinued, and you don’t know his preferences. The SpinFaktor HG is long gone, and discontinued. > > And yet people always tell other people to get a Protostar… > > I was talking about this: > > > [@\_|@\<06](#): > > > > Plus with yoyos like the 2010 FH and the Protostar, who even needs metals. That’s because they have better playability then the SFHG, and people have forgotten about that yoyo, and you can’t really find it anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/28 "2010-07-18T18:31:50Z")
> [@x52](#): > > > [@Apetrunk](#): > > > > > [@x52](#): > > > > > > > [@Apetrunk](#): > > > > > > > > I think you last few people have missed out on the entire point on this thread. Sure you can get a metal when you want, but if you get it too early on, your throw will never really develop as much as it could and you won’t be anywhere near as smooth as you could and should be. > > > > > > > > You could also throw several, if not all, HG yoyos in there. SFHG baby! > > > > > > 😛 Discontinued, and you don’t know his preferences. The SpinFaktor HG is long gone, and discontinued. > > > > And yet people always tell other people to get a Protostar… > > > > I was talking about this: > > > > > [@\_|@\<06](#): > > > > > > Plus with yoyos like the 2010 FH and the Protostar, who even needs metals. > > That’s because they have better playability then the SFHG, and people have forgotten about that yoyo, and you can’t really find it anywhere. Not really. ---
**Author:** ![BuddhaFusion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buddhafusion/32/465_2.png) [@BuddhaFusion](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BuddhaFusion)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/29 "2010-07-18T19:38:37Z")
hey i saw that kid to on youtube he was bragging to be the only one in the world with one yet sponsered people have had them before him. and yes he was horrible. btw did you know he has a acount here his name is zomha2 or something like that ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/30 "2010-07-18T20:22:50Z")
> [@x52](#): > > That’s because they have different playability from the SFHG Fixed. > [@x52](#): > > and you can’t really find it anywhere. Umm…so a hard to find yoyo makes it worthless? Tell that to Oxy Ti, C22, 28 Stories Peak, and other yoyo owners. ---
**Author:** ![Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19adc/32.png) [@Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ariq_PGM_2)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/31 "2010-07-18T21:12:50Z")
So heres what i do and most of my friends do too… Learn a trick on a metal till u get the hang of it. Then, we use yyj plastics to make tricks smother. ---
**Author:** ![king825](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/king825/32/347_2.png) [@king825](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/king825)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/32 "2010-07-18T21:36:24Z")
I got mine 2 years in, and by pure accident. I got an agape and a Lyn, and I had no idea how to use them. I didn’t even know such non returning yoyos existed, but I got better with them. ---
**Author:** ![x52](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/3bc359/32.png) [@x52](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/x52)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/33 "2010-07-18T22:22:14Z")
> [@Q](#): > > > [@x52](#): > > > > > [@Apetrunk](#): > > > > > > > [@x52](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Apetrunk](#): > > > > > > > > > > I think you last few people have missed out on the entire point on this thread. Sure you can get a metal when you want, but if you get it too early on, your throw will never really develop as much as it could and you won’t be anywhere near as smooth as you could and should be. > > > > > > > > > > You could also throw several, if not all, HG yoyos in there. SFHG baby! > > > > > > > > 😛 Discontinued, and you don’t know his preferences. The SpinFaktor HG is long gone, and discontinued. > > > > > > And yet people always tell other people to get a Protostar… > > > > > > I was talking about this: > > > > > > > [@\_|@\<06](#): > > > > > > > > Plus with yoyos like the 2010 FH and the Protostar, who even needs metals. > > > > That’s because they have better playability then the SFHG, and people have forgotten about that yoyo, and you can’t really find it anywhere. > > Not really. In your opinion that is. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/34 "2010-07-18T22:43:26Z")
> [@x52](#): > > > [@Q](#): > > > > Not really. > > In your opinion that is. Likewise. (Edit:fixed failed quote :P) ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/35 "2010-07-19T01:10:45Z")
> [@x52](#): > > > [@Q](#): > > > > > [@x52](#): > > > > > > > [@Apetrunk](#): > > > > > > > > > [@x52](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@Apetrunk](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you last few people have missed out on the entire point on this thread. Sure you can get a metal when you want, but if you get it too early on, your throw will never really develop as much as it could and you won’t be anywhere near as smooth as you could and should be. > > > > > > > > > > > > You could also throw several, if not all, HG yoyos in there. SFHG baby! > > > > > > > > > > 😛 Discontinued, and you don’t know his preferences. The SpinFaktor HG is long gone, and discontinued. > > > > > > > > And yet people always tell other people to get a Protostar… > > > > > > > > I was talking about this: > > > > > > > > > [@\_|@\<06](#): > > > > > > > > > > Plus with yoyos like the 2010 FH and the Protostar, who even needs metals. > > > > > > That’s because they have better playability then the SFHG, [b]and people have forgotten about that yoyo, and you can’t really find it anywhere. > > > > [/b] > > Not really. > > In your opinion that is. Obviously people haven’t forgotten about it if it’s the subject of a dispute here. ---
**Author:** ![memorex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/memorex/32/548_2.png) [@memorex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/memorex)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/36 "2010-07-19T07:54:35Z")
> [@BuddhaFusion](#): > > i sorta disagree with you i have like 20 metals in my 6th month of yoyoing and i learned so much easier because of that longer spin time. So very true… I really don’t get all the “don’t get a metal, you don’t need one” threads/posts. Offcourse you don’t need one, you’ll never need a Ferrari/Iphone/[fill in any luxery item here]… either. But it was way way easier for me to learn how to handle a string and where and how to place and use your fingers with a nice long spinning unresponsive yoyo… And i can do all the tricks i practiced on my metal yoyo way way way better now on my duncan flying squirrel and freehand 2… You can buy a metal yoyo as a first yoyo and still become a smooth player… And if you don’t get smooth, who cares anyways, as long as you have fun… ---
**Author:** ![stevenjamesleda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d26b3c/32.png) [@stevenjamesleda](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stevenjamesleda)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/37 "2010-07-19T08:23:33Z")
Ok well it seems thats its different for [all.Me](http://all.Me) for instance i have been yoyoing for 3 months and i just ordered a dv888…I got into yoyoing first by gettign just a boring wooden one,then a starburst yoyo then i jumped straight into a PGM and i dident know how to bind at all…but i leardned in 3 dayz and now im working on expert level tricks…so the conclusion is that its different for everyone… -$$B- ---
**Author:** ![sa11297](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@sa11297](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sa11297)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/38 "2010-07-19T16:58:28Z")
i think its not about when you get a metal. its about when you turn to unresponsive playing. because a protostar for example is just as unresponsive as any other metal out there if not more ---
**Author:** ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/39 "2010-07-19T17:14:17Z")
I 100% agree… That was a fail kid and if you can land even a trapeze on a brain, I congratulate you. > [@](#): > > Recently I saw a video of a review of the Yoyofactory Protege.  It was the only one on youtube, so I watched it and it really saddened me.  The kid in the video had a string on it that must’ve been up to his nipples, and he couldn’t even do a proper front mount bind.  He tried to do revolutions on it and failed, and he did triple or nothing like 4 times (1 or 2 successful). you mean THIS KID? [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwc9cO0m96k) I want to punch that kid… In the video hes using a 2010 g5. He fails a plastic whip, lands the plastic whip does around 3 revolutions on a gyro flop and does a SBM revolutions…so pro… ---
**Author:** ![Preinfalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/preinfalk/32/551_2.png) [@Preinfalk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Preinfalk)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822/40 "2010-07-19T18:05:26Z")
> [@mista8eight8](#): > > I 100% agree… That was a fail kid and if you can land even a trapeze on a brain, I congratulate you. > > I want to punch that kid… > > In the video hes using a 2010 g5. He fails a plastic whip, lands the plastic whip does around 3 revolutions on a gyro flop and does a SBM revolutions…so pro… That is kind of sad…jk. I consider myself an intermediate-low advanced player, and I can do somewhat better. But, I don’t really like those people who think they are all that, when they aren’t. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/to-get-a-metal-or-not-to-get-a-metal-that-is-the-question/16822.md?page=3)