# thumb grind with dark magic!!!!!! help!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [June 17, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306 "2009-06-17T04:30:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![thegodofyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@thegodofyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/thegodofyoyo)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/1 "2009-06-17T04:30:00Z")
ok so i can thumb grind with my metal zero, but on my dm i cant get my thumb in the groove without having my thumb hit the design and killing the yoyos speed!! help please! ---
**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/2 "2009-06-17T04:32:17Z")
Design? Thoso might be caps, they are the only desing on a Dark Magic. Take them off with a suction cup. ---
**Author:** ![Shisaki417](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shisaki417/32/150_2.png) [@Shisaki417](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shisaki417)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/3 "2009-06-17T04:33:21Z")
You can also biuld your thumb grind skills by trying to do it with the caps on too :P. ---
**Author:** ![JM1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jm1/32/135_2.png) [@JM1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JM1)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/4 "2009-06-17T09:39:23Z")
All you have to do is remove the caps (use suction cups). You can do it like Andre and take one off and leave the other on, but its your choice. After you get a feel for it you can put the caps back in and try it that way, but that is pretty difficult. ---
**Author:** ![thegodofyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@thegodofyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/thegodofyoyo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/5 "2009-06-21T03:09:11Z")
ok ok… one problem… I dont have a suction cup! lol ---
**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/6 "2009-06-21T03:10:57Z")
You can also use Duck Tape. ---
**Author:** ![thegodofyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@thegodofyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/thegodofyoyo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/7 "2009-06-21T03:11:44Z")
ok! now that i have! thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/8 "2009-06-21T03:16:47Z")
How did it work? ??? ---
**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/9 "2009-06-21T20:56:19Z")
Take suction cups. Lick if you have to, press firmly, pull hard! POP! You have removed the caps (pogs). I can Thumb Grind with caps on easily. Just put your thumb on the pims as far as you can go, pull the string the way you are, and move your thumb to almost the center of the cap. Almost like stacking. ---
**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/10 "2009-06-21T20:58:28Z")
> [@Spencer\_L](#): > > Take suction cups. Lick if you have to, press firmly, pull hard! POP! You have removed the caps (pogs). I can Thumb Grind with caps on easily. Just put your thumb on the pims as far as you can go, pull the string the way you are, and move your thumb to almost the center of the cap. Almost like stacking. He said: > [@thegodofyoyo](#): > > ok ok… one problem… I dont have a suction cup! lol ---
**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/11 "2009-06-21T21:08:56Z")
I know, I saw it. Its really not that hard just to go out and buy one… ---
**Author:** ![polloyoyo12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@polloyoyo12](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/polloyoyo12)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/12 "2009-06-24T17:53:43Z")
or you can practice wit the cap on and get good and then take the caps off and you will be able to grind very smoothly ---
**Author:** ![Shisaki417](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shisaki417/32/150_2.png) [@Shisaki417](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shisaki417)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/13 "2009-06-24T17:56:46Z")
Yea, I said that already, look up. ---
**Author:** ![mikey77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mikey77/32/48_2.png) [@mikey77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mikey77)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/14 "2009-06-25T20:03:57Z")
you must have a suction cup, look in the bathroom. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![JDrocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@JDrocks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JDrocks)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/15 "2009-06-30T20:37:08Z")
> [@JM1](#): > > All you have to do is remove the caps (use suction cups). You can do it like Andre and take one off and leave the other on, but its your choice. After you get a feel for it you can put the caps back in and try it that way, but that is pretty difficult. thats good butt when u do that the yoyo tilts alots faster due to the uneven wieght distrubution :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/16 "2009-06-30T21:02:08Z")
Yeah. It depends on how many grams the caps are. Foil-stamped, printer paper, paper, the weight can offset it a lot. Especially on Dark Magics. ---
**Author:** ![Cameron364](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@Cameron364](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cameron364)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/17 "2009-07-05T23:13:35Z")
Can u put caps back on after u take them off? ---
**Author:** ![Shisaki417](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shisaki417/32/150_2.png) [@Shisaki417](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shisaki417)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/18 "2009-07-05T23:44:19Z")
you should be able to but i dont think it will stay on as good as it did stock. ---
**Author:** ![thegodofyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@thegodofyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/thegodofyoyo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/19 "2009-07-07T02:07:01Z")
Yeah i took both of the caps off… but the suction cup didn’t work so i used an ice pic to get under the groove and pry it out! the yoyo is unharmed! lol thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Smoke770077](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@Smoke770077](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Smoke770077)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306/20 "2009-07-07T03:12:31Z")
Eh I prefer play with caps on for somereason (My poor mirrored caps on my Legacy and New Breed :() But I agree with every one else, learn to do it with them on… I find it looks so much nicer with the caps on and if you do the half on and half off you have to wait for the uncapped side (Every other throw) to do a thumb grind… Thats my thoughts on the matter… [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thumb-grind-with-dark-magic-help/3306.md?page=2)