# Thesis Paladin vs CLYW boy **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [April 7, 2023, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thesis-paladin-vs-clyw-boy/373226 "2023-04-07T03:07:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tdphuochuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tdphuochuy/32/210407_2.png) [@tdphuochuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tdphuochuy)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thesis-paladin-vs-clyw-boy/373226/1 "2023-04-07T03:07:18Z")
I’m temp on getting either Thesis Paladin or CLYW boy but I can’t really decide. Since it is hard to tell how they perform and feel just through reading replies, i will decide which one to go for by its minimum sleeper time (simply drop the yoyo without any force, let it spin and time it). I know its not optimal and not a good way to pick a yoyo by its sleeper time but that’s just my preference. So if any of you own either Thesis Paladin or CLYW boy, time your yoyo and let me know the time please. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![CatFoodScience](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/catfoodscience/32/206708_2.png) [@CatFoodScience](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CatFoodScience)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thesis-paladin-vs-clyw-boy/373226/2 "2023-04-07T14:43:23Z")
Paladin 2 medium throws averaged around 1:10 2 hard throws averaged around 3:30 Mind you, i haven’t cleaned this bearing in over a month so a clean dry bearing may spin longer but 3 minutes isn’t bad. ---
**Author:** ![tdphuochuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tdphuochuy/32/210407_2.png) [@tdphuochuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tdphuochuy)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thesis-paladin-vs-clyw-boy/373226/3 "2023-04-07T19:43:43Z")
Appreciate the info man! ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thesis-paladin-vs-clyw-boy/373226/4 "2023-04-07T19:53:49Z")
The boy is going to have way less spin time because it’s a monometal and paladin is a bimetal ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thesis-paladin-vs-clyw-boy/373226/5 "2023-04-07T20:12:40Z")
> [@tdphuochuy](#): > > (simply drop the yoyo without any force, let it spin and time it) Boy. Near mint. Stock bearing. Brand new regular MonkeyfingerR Vine. 15 seconds max. before tilting over. ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thesis-paladin-vs-clyw-boy/373226/6 "2023-04-07T20:19:29Z")
FWIW, I tested a few other yoyos and they are all in the same range using this test even though they are not similar performers at all. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thesis-paladin-vs-clyw-boy/373226/7 "2023-04-07T20:31:41Z")
I’m assuming twisting the string (like in long sleeper contests) isn’t part of this? I have a yoyo with a grooved bearing that got \>2 minute drop sleeper with string adjustments, and ~40 seconds without (timed to exhaustion) ---
**Author:** ![Resident\_thrower](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/resident_thrower/32/244163_2.png) [@Resident\_thrower](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Resident_thrower)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thesis-paladin-vs-clyw-boy/373226/8 "2023-04-07T20:37:20Z")
Personally I prefer the boy due to its floaty nature, whereas the paladin is much more powerful being a bimetal, and therefore has longer spin times. But I loved the boy so much I bought 2 so I might be a bit biased ---
**Author:** ![CatFoodScience](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/catfoodscience/32/206708_2.png) [@CatFoodScience](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CatFoodScience)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thesis-paladin-vs-clyw-boy/373226/9 "2023-04-07T21:36:46Z")
sorry i missed the fact that you asked for a no force drop. just did one and it was about 38 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![tdphuochuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tdphuochuy/32/210407_2.png) [@tdphuochuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tdphuochuy)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thesis-paladin-vs-clyw-boy/373226/10 "2023-04-07T21:37:54Z")
Did you twist the string or just simply drop it and let gravity do the job? ---
**Author:** ![CatFoodScience](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/catfoodscience/32/206708_2.png) [@CatFoodScience](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CatFoodScience)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/thesis-paladin-vs-clyw-boy/373226/11 "2023-04-07T21:40:47Z")
it was wrapped around the yoyo bearing and rolled off my hand, no force applied just gravity. in doing a couple of these, it really depends on how centered the string and yoyo are. if the string touches the pads it can cause it to slow or spin out sooner.