# Therapin, KonKave, Centre Trac, Crucial Grooved or Terrapin X Bearing **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [September 21, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327 "2010-09-21T14:07:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Patto\_80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5e9695/32.png) [@Patto\_80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Patto_80)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/1 "2010-09-21T14:07:12Z")
I never owned any bearing except from flat bearing, and I’ve been playing for about 6 months and I’ve decided I’m going to get one. So which one of these bearing plays smoothest? ---
**Author:** ![XminusmikeX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xminusmikex/32/294_2.png) [@XminusmikeX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/XminusmikeX)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/2 "2010-09-21T14:14:53Z")
Its a preference thing and when it comes down to it, you only really need a flat bearing. None of these bearings are going to really improve play and if they do its only by a little. Out of these I’ve played both a Center Track and KK, but neither improved the spin or play of my yoyo. They are all good bearings so I would go w/ what can you afford? ---
**Author:** ![theyoster109](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoster109/32/244_2.png) [@theyoster109](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theyoster109)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/3 "2010-09-21T15:01:39Z")
Terrapins are really good. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/4 "2010-09-21T15:11:10Z")
> [@XminusmikeX](#): > > Its a preference thing and when it comes down to it, you only really need a flat bearing. None of these bearings are going to really improve play and if they do its only by a little. Out of these I’ve played both a Center Track and KK, but neither improved the spin or play of my yoyo. They are all good bearings so I would go w/ what can you afford? This. However, you can get a different bearing if you want, but I would suggest getting more than just a couple bearings on a shipment, especially to Australia, so that the shipping becomes not worthless. ---
**Author:** ![ratfacedudeguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ratfacedudeguy/32/273_2.png) [@ratfacedudeguy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ratfacedudeguy)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/5 "2010-09-21T15:11:49Z")
I played with Konkaves and Center Tracs for almost a year and a half but recently I’ve been really finding an appreciation for flat bearings. They just feel better all around in my opinion, and they hold a suicide loop much better than any kind of centered bearing would. If that’s not a big part of your style, then I’d go for whichever. With care, any of these bearings would be as smooth as the other. My order of recommendation is as follows: Flat bearing Terrapin X Center Trac Konkave (I’ve never played a Crucial grooved) ---
**Author:** ![XminusmikeX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xminusmikex/32/294_2.png) [@XminusmikeX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/XminusmikeX)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/6 "2010-09-21T15:21:23Z")
> [@Apetrunk](#): > > > [@XminusmikeX](#): > > > > Its a preference thing and when it comes down to it, you only really need a flat bearing. None of these bearings are going to really improve play and if they do its only by a little. Out of these I’ve played both a Center Track and KK, but neither improved the spin or play of my yoyo. They are all good bearings so I would go w/ what can you afford? > > This. However, you can get a different bearing if you want, but I would suggest getting more than just a couple bearings on a shipment, especially to Australia, so that the shipping becomes not worthless. Good point, I didn’t realize he was in Australia ;D ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/7 "2010-09-21T15:59:17Z")
I do enjoy the TerraPin bearings because they don’t need cleaned or lubed. But as far as bearings being used for centering the string, it is utterly useless. ---
**Author:** ![Mi1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mi1/32/626_2.png) [@Mi1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mi1)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/8 "2010-09-21T16:24:39Z")
Play with the bearing that came with your yoyo. It comes with it for a reason. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Person](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/958977/32.png) [@A\_Person](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/A_Person)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/9 "2010-09-21T18:27:25Z")
if you do get another bearing, get a terrapin ---
**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/10 "2010-09-21T20:40:59Z")
I personally live kks and center tracks But they don’t make your yoyo extremely better than before ---
**Author:** ![mikelz777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@mikelz777](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mikelz777)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/11 "2010-09-21T21:00:51Z")
I’d be willing to bet that if you were to have a blind test pitting a flat bearing against any or all of those mentioned that very few, if anyone would be able to tell the difference. I think it’s probably more a psychological thing than anything. If by chance that there were some discernable difference, it would probably be so minimal that it wouldn’t really make a difference in your play. That being said, the only difference I can tell between the various bearings I have in my yoyos (stock Duncan, YYJ, YYF, center trac and 10-ball) is that the 10-ball is ninja quiet and feels “a bit” smoother. The difference in play is negligible. ---
**Author:** ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/12 "2010-09-21T21:02:11Z")
i love 10 ball bearings, they just feel…right… they last forever, and, on a certain site i am not allowed to mention…you can buy them in bulk. ---
**Author:** ![Patto\_80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5e9695/32.png) [@Patto\_80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Patto_80)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/13 "2010-09-21T23:36:25Z")
> [@XminusmikeX](#): > > > [@Apetrunk](#): > > > > > [@XminusmikeX](#): > > > > > > Its a preference thing and when it comes down to it, you only really need a flat bearing. None of these bearings are going to really improve play and if they do its only by a little. Out of these I’ve played both a Center Track and KK, but neither improved the spin or play of my yoyo. They are all good bearings so I would go w/ what can you afford? > > > > This. However, you can get a different bearing if you want, but I would suggest getting more than just a couple bearings on a shipment, especially to Australia, so that the shipping becomes not worthless. > > Good point, I didn’t realize he was in Australia ;D Don’t worry I’ll get it when I buy my next yoyo ;D ---
**Author:** ![crazyoyow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@crazyoyow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/crazyoyow)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/14 "2010-09-21T23:37:54Z")
terrapins are amazing ---
**Author:** ![dyladon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@dyladon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dyladon)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/15 "2010-09-22T00:42:00Z")
> [@mista8eight8](#): > > i love 10 ball bearings, they just feel…right… > > they last forever, and, on a certain site i am not allowed to mention…you can buy them in bulk. i agree 10 ball bearings are good but i found that the kk actually did improve my spin time ---
**Author:** ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/16 "2010-09-22T01:11:10Z")
> [@dyladon](#): > > > [@mista8eight8](#): > > > > i love 10 ball bearings, they just feel…right… > > > > they last forever, and, on a certain site i am not allowed to mention…you can buy them in bulk. > > i agree 10 ball bearings are good but i found that the kk actually did improve my spin time you will never need longer then a 3 minute sleeper ordinarily. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/17 "2010-09-22T01:57:03Z")
> [@dyladon](#): > > but i found that the kk actually did improve my spin time No it didn’t. You can think that all you want, but it really didn’t, unless you have a bad throw and the string doesn’t center, in which case you just need to work on your throw. ---
**Author:** ![Mi1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mi1/32/626_2.png) [@Mi1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mi1)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/18 "2010-09-22T02:19:17Z")
> [@dyladon](#): > > > [@mista8eight8](#): > > > > i love 10 ball bearings, they just feel…right… > > > > they last forever, and, on a certain site i am not allowed to mention…you can buy them in bulk. > > i agree 10 ball bearings are good but i found that the kk actually did improve my spin time Go towards the light, the suited men are waiting. ---
**Author:** ![secondskin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@secondskin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/secondskin)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/19 "2010-09-25T18:35:40Z")
Terrapins are the best by far. They do improve my play. ---
**Author:** ![Mi1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mi1/32/626_2.png) [@Mi1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mi1)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327/20 "2010-09-25T18:57:21Z")
Terrapin are like… Kyo’s bearings. Treated with a coat of something that John won’t explain 😛 [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/therapin-konkave-centre-trac-crucial-grooved-or-terrapin-x-bearing/19327.md?page=2)