# The YYF Dv888 vs. The Duncan Raptor **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\ **Created:** [August 6, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750 "2011-08-06T16:28:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Reddsigma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reddsigma/32/759_2.png) [@Reddsigma](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reddsigma)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/21 "2011-08-15T16:40:35Z")
> [@skeletonboy333](#): > > You know why I post here. Arrgghhhh…How could you. > > > [@Reddsigma](#): > > > > > [@hakysak](#): > > > > > > Reddsigma, overall this was a good review and comparison. However, there is one mistake in your Raptor spcecs. It uses Silicone Groove (SG) stickers and not regular sili stickers. The SG stickers are very much like YYF’s CBC pads, and aren’t as grabby as sili pads, and can be replaced with flowable sili. > > > > > > Also, a lot of people have been stating that the Raptor’s caps are thin and brittle, but I believe that that is a misconception. Being clear, molding marks and flash show up on the Raptor cap, but they are just as tough as the caps on a FHZ. Other than the look, they appear to have the same weight and flexibility as opaque Duncan caps. > > > > Thanks for the input Hakysak! About the caps though, I put that in there because a bit of mine chipped off on the edge from using a pin. And it was just a bit you know. I felt them very very cheap. So I use the suction cup method to avoid any further damage. > > > > Thanks for taking the time to make excellent input! > > I poked and slashed the caps over 50 times, there are only 20 marks. And no cracking. Pretty sure you just got the unlucky batch. Yes, that seems to be the case. It doesn’t bother me too much anymore as I don’t use the caps at all because I simply hate those transparent lenses! hehe. Thx for the post! ---
**Author:** ![Yoneill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/90ced4/32.png) [@Yoneill](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoneill)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/22 "2011-08-15T20:12:55Z")
When I bought my black w/ green splash Dv888 it costed more than it does now, but it was still totally worth it. I just wish the bearing it came with was a little better. ---
**Author:** ![Reddsigma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reddsigma/32/759_2.png) [@Reddsigma](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reddsigma)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/23 "2011-08-15T23:34:45Z")
> [@Yoneill](#): > > When I bought my black w/ green splash Dv888 it costed more than it does now, but it was still totally worth it. I just wish the bearing it came with was a little better. Hello, what was the price back then? Around $60??? I think black and green splash is pretty cool looking. I’ve not seen a Dv888 like that before. I’m not a huge fan of the Spec bearing. You could always upgrade to something else. there’s the Onedrop 10 ball or even the YYJ Speed which works really great. Or the difeo KK or the Terrapin dry play too! ---
**Author:** ![skeletonboy333](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@skeletonboy333](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skeletonboy333)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/24 "2011-08-16T01:14:29Z")
Forgot to say, nice review! But the conclusion just is a nick in the eye for me. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Reddsigma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reddsigma/32/759_2.png) [@Reddsigma](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reddsigma)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/25 "2011-08-16T04:19:25Z")
> [@skeletonboy333](#): > > Forgot to say, nice review! But the conclusion just is a nick in the eye for me. :wink: Thanks Skeletonboy! You could always relieve that nick by getting a Dv888 and see for yourself hehe. I’m pretty sure you’d love it. ---
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/26 "2011-08-16T08:19:19Z")
Played both extensively, the DV888 all day, everyday pretty sure the raptor is also made in china if you like it heavy, PGM axle + stacks fit on the DV888 (stacked mine) in terms of pure spin time, I think the Code1 is my only throw that actually spins as long (if not a tad bit longer) than the DV I always recommend a DV888 for a first metal, cheap, high performance, undersize (easier when you begin I think, makes it easier to do intricate stuff) ---
**Author:** ![Reddsigma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reddsigma/32/759_2.png) [@Reddsigma](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reddsigma)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/27 "2011-08-16T16:34:19Z")
[quote=“hadoq,post:26,topic:28750”] Played both extensively, the DV888 all day, everyday pretty sure the raptor is also made in china if you like it heavy, PGM axle + stacks fit on the DV888 (stacked mine) in terms of pure spin time, I think the Code1 is my only throw that actually spins as long (if not a tad bit longer) than the DV I always recommend a DV888 for a first metal, cheap, high performance, undersize (easier when you begin I think, makes it easier to do intricate stuff) [/quote Thanks for the commentary. I Love the Dv888. I’ve not tried to stack it though. Very interesting. Do you think you could post a pic of it??? Yes, the Raptor is made in China. ---
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/28 "2011-08-16T22:37:00Z")
I’ll have to take pics of my DV888 at some point I’ll post em up, it’s one of my beaters tho (^^)/ ---
**Author:** ![turtleyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@turtleyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/turtleyo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/29 "2011-08-17T15:26:13Z")
well actually all duncan yoyo’s are made in either mexico or japan i think. they just process them in the us(ship). ---
**Author:** ![XminusmikeX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xminusmikex/32/294_2.png) [@XminusmikeX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/XminusmikeX)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/30 "2011-08-17T16:00:31Z")
I dig seeing a “Vs” review on two hot throws like this. Good job… …but, I would have to disagree w/ the outcome. I have owned both the Dv888 and Raptor, and to be honest, I couldn’t stand the Dv888. The Raptor on the other hand, is one of my main throws, but this is just my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Reddsigma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reddsigma/32/759_2.png) [@Reddsigma](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reddsigma)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/31 "2011-08-17T16:47:06Z")
> [@hadoq](#): > > I’ll have to take pics of my DV888 at some point I’ll post em up, it’s one of my beaters tho (^^)/ well, it’s only because I’ve heard so many kids want to know if it’s even possible to stack a dv888. so I think it’d be helpful. Perhaps under the modifications page. ---
**Author:** ![Reddsigma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reddsigma/32/759_2.png) [@Reddsigma](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reddsigma)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/32 "2011-08-17T16:48:02Z")
> [@turtleyo](#): > > well actually all duncan yoyo’s are made in either mexico or japan i think. they just process them in the us(ship). I don’t know about the rest… but the Raptor’s definitely made in China. ---
**Author:** ![Reddsigma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reddsigma/32/759_2.png) [@Reddsigma](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reddsigma)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/33 "2011-08-17T16:50:39Z")
> [@XminusmikeX](#): > > I dig seeing a “Vs” review on two hot throws like this. Good job… > > …but, I would have to disagree w/ the outcome. I have owned both the Dv888 and Raptor, and to be honest, I couldn’t stand the Dv888. The Raptor on the other hand, is one of my main throws, but this is just my opinion. Yea doing Vs reviews is kinda spicy and perhaps even controversial enough to give people a Stomach ache but it’s also an irresistible thing. hehe. Well, you posted your experience also and that’s what matters. Thanks and have a good one. ---
**Author:** ![papaYOYO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/papayoyo/32/926_2.png) [@papaYOYO](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/papaYOYO)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/34 "2011-09-23T07:10:56Z")
> [@hadoq](#): > > I’ll have to take pics of my DV888 at some point I’ll post em up, it’s one of my beaters tho (^^)/ I’d like to see your stacked dv888! How does it play compare to stock or compared to other factory stacked throws such as the PGM? ---
**Author:** ![OffStringFreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@OffStringFreak](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OffStringFreak)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/35 "2012-01-13T01:25:18Z")
I got a raptor for christmas and if you throw it at an angle you can do irg’s, just takes a bit of practice to keep it on your thumb nail without falling off but it is possible! ---
**Author:** ![Reddsigma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reddsigma/32/759_2.png) [@Reddsigma](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reddsigma)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/36 "2012-01-13T02:40:44Z")
You have the Magic touch then. I tried it that way and it just flies off hehe. thx for the post! ---
**Author:** ![Skiyo79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Skiyo79](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Skiyo79)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/37 "2012-01-15T21:47:42Z")
Actually just got both of these throws for christmas and like the Dv888 just a little bit better than the raptor. Cool concept of comparing two yoyos ---
**Author:** ![phil\_the\_lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@phil\_the\_lizard](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/phil_the_lizard)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/38 "2012-09-26T22:10:19Z")
Okay, so this was a great comparison. it obviously reflects your findings. however, i disagree with you. i find the Raptor to be a much more fun thing to throw around. it has that awesome finish, plays stable (i feel it is more than the dv888, but that might just be me/ my play style) and has a unique little tiny vibe that i actually like. try throwing it with a center trac. I liked the dv888 at first, but i feel like it is almost boring. i mean, it is smooth, stable and decent on all speeds, but in throwing it i feel like it should be called the “A yoyo that mashes up many other yoyos and a popular shape to make something that plays awesome but also feels like every other yoyo.” this might just be me (i spent three months throwing almost only my dv888). dont get me wrong i love my yyf 888x, my yyf gfunk, my protostars, my northstar, and my friend’s yuuksta, but this is the one yoyo by them that i have thrown that i don’t say IWANTTHISSOBADNOWHOWMUCHISIT? -this may just be my views, but i like the raptor a little better in this case. ---
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750/39 "2012-09-27T02:27:10Z")
> [@Reddsigma](#): > > > [@hadoq](#): > > > > I’ll have to take pics of my DV888 at some point I’ll post em up, it’s one of my beaters tho (^^)/ > > well, it’s only because I’ve heard so many kids want to know if it’s even possible to stack a dv888. so I think it’d be helpful. Perhaps under the modifications page. PGM axle and hubstacks, works like a charm [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yyf-dv888-vs-the-duncan-raptor/28750.md?page=1)