# The Yovengers **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [July 30, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136 "2019-07-30T21:55:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/1 "2019-07-30T21:55:34Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/3/b/23b71723179545870dc1efc3c8d21dfe60b405c2.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/e/d/1edbebf9e6fdc5d7b936b5581303c434a6e76e58.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/3/e/93e64dd7b787e6aee1de4e98c0a993fb5f2ea8d3.jpeg) 2WEI 2018, Bowl, Grail, Life Organic dream team! ---
**Author:** ![WretchedRapture](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wretchedrapture/32/1124_2.png) [@WretchedRapture](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WretchedRapture)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/2 "2019-07-30T22:04:55Z")
Gorgeous. I missed the 2WEI drop, so that’s the only one I’m missing. Oh, and my bowl is the 7068 version because I’m not made of money. \>.\<’ ---
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/3 "2019-07-30T22:17:48Z")
That is Bowl 7068. I don’t have a Ti Bowl either (yet!) ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/4 "2019-07-30T22:27:02Z")
I mean obviously the green 2WEI is 💚💚💚 But wow…that orange Grail is also gorgeous! 🧡 ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/5 "2019-07-30T22:28:24Z")
I can’t help but find the existance of the Bowl offensive. ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/6 "2019-07-30T22:29:29Z")
hehe I know there’s gotta be an inside joke behind this…I just don’t know what it is! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Z\_Car](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/z_car/32/72879_2.png) [@Z\_Car](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Z_Car)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/7 "2019-07-30T22:55:01Z")
I am curious, why is it that you take offense? ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/8 "2019-07-30T23:51:35Z")
The aqua Bowl is beautiful. I have the pink one, and now I wish I had the aqua one. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/9 "2019-07-31T00:31:53Z")
I believe he’s talking about the ties between the bowl and the Grail, and the similarities between the two. ---
**Author:** ![Z\_Car](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/z_car/32/72879_2.png) [@Z\_Car](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Z_Car)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/10 "2019-07-31T02:30:35Z")
Gotchya. I am unfamiliar with their ties. They visually look quite different to me. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/11 "2019-07-31T02:47:59Z")
There was some drama awhile back that I just barely missed before coming back off a hiatus. Apparently the Tibowl was more similar before release and Jensen wasn’t happy. ---
**Author:** ![WretchedRapture](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wretchedrapture/32/1124_2.png) [@WretchedRapture](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WretchedRapture)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/12 "2019-07-31T07:07:56Z")
Ahh yes, the color and logo should’ve been a dead giveaway. I didn’t give my response much thought. I just saw the beauties and had to say something. lol. ---
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/13 "2019-07-31T11:12:05Z")
> [@JohnnyJ](#): > > There was some drama awhile back that I just barely missed before coming back off a hiatus. Apparently the Tibowl was more similar before release and Jensen wasn’t happy. And Jensen’s wishes were respected and changes were made prior to release and Jensen has no beef with Elvin now. But for some reason people keep bringing this up. I wonder why Jensen gets a pass on refusing to change the name, actually hurting LaMontē, but people rush to an unnecessary defense of Jensen on this issue. Honestly I lose respect for people when they bring it up. It’s a bad look IMO. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/14 "2019-07-31T12:14:53Z")
Hey man, I’m just the messenger. Someone asked 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/15 "2019-07-31T12:35:17Z")
I agree. Is jensen the only one allowed to make organic yoyos? Love the guy but come on man, all the complaining kinda ruins this community. Not speaking just about him, but everything in general (ie bowl, yoyofreaks, etc) ---
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/16 "2019-07-31T12:48:15Z")
> [@JohnnyJ](#): > > Hey man, I’m just the messenger. Someone asked 🤷‍♂️ Sorry I was just quoting you because you had that explanation and it was kind of a conversational reply for the rest of the audience. I know you’re not banging that drum. And for the record, I don’t think it’s an issue with sides to take at all. I love stuff from Elvin and A-RT and will continue to buy from both. I just think it’s silly that every time the Bowl gets brought up people want to bring up that unfounded dirt. It’s weird and mean-spirited and uncharacteristic of the community IMO, and it’s not exercised equilaterally. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/17 "2019-07-31T13:08:20Z")
Ah okay, good deal. I agree with what you’re saying in regards to it being old news and tired. The Bowl is very different from the Grail, and people should love them both :heart: ---
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/18 "2019-07-31T13:18:23Z")
Yeah sorry I caused confusion I know you were just reporting the tale, not endorsing it. I love the organic surge - it’s so great. Silicone-modded FHZ was my go-to back in the day, and 888 was my first pricey metal. Next to arrive should be the Batsquatch - REALLY looking forward to holding that one! ---
**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/19 "2019-07-31T14:34:54Z")
Ive seen plenty about how the Grail/Bowl/Life compare to one another, but how does the 2WEI play in comparison? I was lucky to make the ILLY drop so I now have one of those green beauties, and would like to know since I have none of the others. ---
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136/20 "2019-07-31T14:40:19Z")
2WEI is remarkably smooth and the finish is amazing. Not to take away from the smoothness of the others but this 2WEI is just gorgeous. 2WEI is less forgiving as you fall off plane. It’s a straighter wall with no schmoove groove. Gap is a tiny bit smaller if I remember spec comparison. String rejection and regens are really fantastic on the 2WEI. Also a really nice undercut rim that allows for easy thumb grinds. The 2WEI is rounded all over - curves for days on that baby. They definitely each have a distinct personality. I’d hate to have to choose a favorite - it really depends on what is in my hand at the time. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yovengers/306136.md?page=2)