# The very rare worst yo-yos?

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**Created:** [August 7, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-very-rare-worst-yo-yos/291563 "2018-08-07T22:39:49Z")\
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@Old_Yoer Ed’s list may be fine enough, and it’s hilarious, but it’s referencing yo-yos from ~20 years ago. I don’t think that list is relevant to today’s yo-yo design at all. Not even a little.

> [@Myk\_Myk](#):
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> I always thought that we should be able to talk about yoyos we don’t like, so I’m glad to see this still here.

Yes, definitely, the idea is to hone in on what aspect of the _design_ made it a bad yo-yo, not just pour haterade all over stuff :wink:

For example what sunk the Nine Dragons is flat out complexity – so many rotating parts in close proximity to each other with such fine rotational tolerances. But that’s OK, it was an experiment, not a gross error of design judgment or anything.

Funny story, even after we were done [testing this Magicyoyo n12 for vibe by hitting one half it repeatedly with a hammer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-yo-yo-vibe-and-how-do-i-test-for-it/291714/6), and (eventually) throwing it into concrete with increasing force to simulate “accidents”… my 9 year old son turns to me in the final testing after throwing it and says …

> Still plays smoother than the Nine Dragons!

ouch… ice burn… that was _not_ a statement I had prompted in any way, nor had I brought that yo-yo up recently with him that I can think of. (I sold mine here on the b/s/t, for $25, many months ago).

> [@Myk\_Myk](#):
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> Tom Kuhn- Pocket Rocket

I want to second this one, I was so excited to get a pocket rocket and then after throwing it a few times… it immediately went on the shelf. For me, the “friction pads” are the element that breaks it. As far as mini responsives go, you are better off converting a Popstar to responsive, which is actually an _amazing_ throw set up that way.

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