# The Ti-Vayder Experience

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**Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\
**Created:** [March 9, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824 "2019-03-09T00:05:27Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/108 "2019-03-09T19:59:28Z")

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A few comments:

- I am very happy to see Heath’s involvement in this. It legitimizes the project in the eyes of the community at large, which is nothing but win for this project.
- Jeff had been trying to reach Heath from the beginning, so any and all accusations that Jeff had no (ethical) regard for the provenance of the design is _flat out wrong_.
- This is not the TiWalker. That yoyo will continue to enjoy its legendary status and collector value no matter how many TiVayders get produced.
- The speed with which this topic has generated over 100 posts is a strong indicator of just how much pent up demand there is for something like this. Kudos to Jeff for identifying that demand and summoning the chutzpah to generate the necessary supply.
- I think some people are ignoring the fact that Jeff intends to make _zero profit_ off this (all profits going to a charity). His objective is not to get rich(er), but to make yoyoers happy. It takes a rather shriveled black heart to find something sinister or self-serving in all of this.

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