# The Ti-Vayder Experience **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [March 9, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824 "2019-03-09T00:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 95
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2003 "2019-07-23T19:37:00Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > And one on fb for $120 > [@codinghorror](#): > > There is one for sale on the reddit b/s/t for $130 right now if that helps. This really surprises me. I’m curious if the sellers didn’t like the yoyo or if they just got in a bind and need cash. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2004 "2019-07-23T19:43:02Z")
I’m surprised it took this long for people to start selling them below retail tbh I’d imagine that there were a lot of impulse buys ---
**Author:** ![aszyd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aszyd/32/151864_2.png) [@aszyd](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aszyd)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2005 "2019-07-23T20:52:01Z")
I had an unexpected yoyo purchase, so I posted everything I felt safe getting rid of, to keep things balanced. Why sell the Vayder? Because I figured I could buy another one in the future. That being said, I will be taking down my FS post later today. I sold the high dollar item, so I am good now. ---
**Author:** ![Malachi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/malachi/32/14039_2.png) [@Malachi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Malachi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2006 "2019-07-23T22:30:10Z")
You’re totally right. Titanium is titanium… so those of us who didn’t have one already needed one… ---
**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2007 "2019-07-23T22:52:11Z")
Yup, I’m sure that for the majority of us this is our first titanium, and raw is classic. I think I even voted black on the poll, but ended up buying a raw and gray, lol ---
**Author:** ![yoyo\_cubicle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo_cubicle/32/691750_2.png) [@yoyo\_cubicle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo_cubicle)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2008 "2019-07-25T00:30:57Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Titanium vs Wood… winner… unsurprisingly… Ti 🥇 It may very well be my imagination, but I swear that a titanium yoyo hurts more than an aluminum yoyo when it smacks you in the knuckles. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2009 "2019-07-25T00:46:11Z")
Relative to _weak human flesh_ both are incredibly strong to the point that I don’t think anyone could really tell the difference… but as far as metals go, titanium vs. aluminum is no contest at all, titanium is a far harder material. Heck it even beats _steel_. ---
**Author:** ![ThrowTrue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwtrue/32/44663_2.png) [@ThrowTrue](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ThrowTrue)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2010 "2019-07-25T16:03:18Z")
If you look at the original concept behind the 888 it is exactly that - the 8 is the floor of going up and the 3 is the symbiotic opposite. =) ---
**Author:** ![KiLbUcK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kilbuck/32/794_2.png) [@KiLbUcK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KiLbUcK)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2011 "2019-07-26T15:53:27Z")
Your last statement! Depends on the grade…there are grades of steel that are harder than titanium. ---
**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2012 "2019-07-26T16:03:51Z")
The extra density of titanium would be noticeable upon impact. It is proportionally more powerful of an energy transfer per square inch, so yea, you can notice it. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2013 "2019-07-26T16:11:18Z")
I think for science purposes, like to _really_ know, like _really really_ know for SURE… We’re going to need a yoyo made of weak human flesh. ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2014 "2019-07-26T16:30:28Z")
I think you may have misinterpreted the argument here… What we _really_ need to do is setup a rig that will shoot a yo-yo square at your knuckles. Then test it with each material type to see how much you can feel the difference. ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2015 "2019-07-26T16:35:23Z")
But to be completely consistent with this, wouldn’t we have to wait until the damaged area of the knuckles healed before trying another test with a different material? This test could take a while to complete. ---
**Author:** ![Lukoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lukoyo/32/24789_2.png) [@Lukoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lukoyo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2016 "2019-07-26T16:49:59Z")
Unless we find a set of twins? Four hands, four materials. ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2017 "2019-07-26T16:52:35Z")
Yeah good point… We might just need to go with the forehead. Plenty of room for 4-5 hits in different areas. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2018 "2019-07-26T16:59:00Z")
Nope. Flesh yoyo. It’s the only way. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2019 "2019-07-26T17:44:49Z")
> [@YoYoExpertGarrett](#): > > What we _really_ need to do is setup a rig that will shoot a yo-yo square at your knuckles. And we will call it… 5A May ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2020 "2019-07-26T18:21:14Z")
Have you ever heard the tragedy of 5A May? It’s not a tale the 1A players would tell you. ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2021 "2019-07-26T19:22:37Z")
Flesh yoyo will be called Mind Flayer. Fight me. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/2022 "2019-07-26T19:46:23Z")
I wonder what Illithids think of “Mind Flayer” becoming a meme. I mean, they didn’t pick that undignified nickname for themselves, so maybe they’re glad to be rid of it. :wink: [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824.md?page=94) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824.md?page=96)