# The Ti-Vayder Experience **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [March 9, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824 "2019-03-09T00:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![d42kn355](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d42kn355/32/829_2.png) [@d42kn355](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d42kn355)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1920 "2019-07-06T17:37:48Z")
Dead smooth upon arrival! 😃 😃 Don’t know if #66 or #99 lol. The bottom of my box doesn’t have anything written on it. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/5/9/c5969242653de0a1ec5816ac98d2ab51fa7395e6.jpeg) In love! 😃 Great Job @codinghorror and I’m glad this all came together in the end @HVizier 🖤 ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1921 "2019-07-06T17:38:46Z")
#s are above center so 99. Nice number! ---
**Author:** ![Apadil1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apadil1/32/70326_2.png) [@Apadil1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apadil1)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1922 "2019-07-06T18:02:38Z")
I’ve had 199 for a bit now, and its honestly the best Ti I’ve played. Not glass smooth, maybe 8-9/10 out of the box, but still very nice. My only issue is the SUPER tight bearing seat. Popping out the original wasn’t bad, but trying to reseat a G2 Boss rage and then a NSK DS was murder on my thumbs! Still, I am supremely satisfied with, what I think, has been my best investment in a yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1923 "2019-07-06T18:03:36Z")
> [@Apadil1](#): > > was murder on my thumbs! Not a fan of bearing removal tools? ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1924 "2019-07-06T18:15:49Z")
I think he means putting a new bearing in was rough on his thumbs. Tool won’t help with that. ---
**Author:** ![Egon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/egon/32/53004_2.png) [@Egon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Egon)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1925 "2019-07-06T18:50:41Z")
When mine arrived I was like, “ Oh snap, is this 69 or maybe I have it upside down.” And when I turned it over it was still 69… :joy: ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1926 "2019-07-06T18:53:42Z")
Wait, you got #69? ---
**Author:** ![Egon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/egon/32/53004_2.png) [@Egon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Egon)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1927 "2019-07-06T19:47:57Z")
Yes Sir. It was inevitable. My reputation ~~spreads~~ spans coast to coast. 🤭🤫 ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1928 "2019-07-06T20:38:33Z")
> [@Egon](#): > > spreads _giggle_ ---
**Author:** ![d42kn355](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d42kn355/32/829_2.png) [@d42kn355](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d42kn355)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1929 "2019-07-07T02:38:18Z")
Had to give it some color… 😃 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/f/f/9ffefaa3a3d8f2c7bad36b3adeb4f3d3d7afa8a4.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/5/6/056291ea50c3ec7f9227db7e9ec0931fa04fa0dc.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/f/2/2f281b0411510bad3e93174aea02618b802d9a01.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/a/8/ca88c66d49101bef6c8e72f05d0df7faf93651c6.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/1/a/51a023b5c7a3d9825434395ab5270694646d8de7.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/7/e/47eab142abbc176fc4b216ee0be81941c06a8088.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/f/5/ff589bb38ec95b99e64de13e8c2ee3c9fc90e00c.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/d/8/9d817902ef88c43f7de0bfefe69df89fb1fbfb83.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1930 "2019-07-07T12:16:38Z")
That looks so great! I watched several basic Ti anno tutorials, but didn’t see any techniques for masking Ti to create fades or a splash like this. Would you mind giving a brief description of the process you used to create this masterpiece? Specifically what you use and how to apply and remove masking. Thanks!!! ---
**Author:** ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1931 "2019-07-07T15:04:55Z")
In Dylan’s tutorial, he used nail polish to mask it and nail polish remover to remove it. Pretty handy. ---
**Author:** ![d42kn355](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d42kn355/32/829_2.png) [@d42kn355](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d42kn355)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1932 "2019-07-07T17:00:07Z")
The splash masking can be done with nail polish or paint markers. The varying colors are through varying the voltage rapidly while anodizing it and utilizing another tool to splotch the item while in the electrolytic solution to cause variance on the surface while the oxide layers are adhering. The colors are a result of refraction from the oxide layers, so variance creates the almost luminescent look. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1933 "2019-07-08T17:36:19Z")
^^ I bet it turned out better than you expected, looks really sick! Turns out the bearing in my Vayder was overlubed. I should have known when the thing would just go completely silent, but still have enough spin for another trick, but I thought I just had a really good bearing. I don’t like to take yoyos apart if I don’t have to, but the response seemed a bit snaggy and I wanted to throw in a grooved bearing to compensate. So I do a bearing swap and wow. I thought the Vayder lacked power because it was a mid-sized yo, but no, this thing spins for days now. Was able to switch back to a poly string (used nylon because of the grippy response) and happier than ever now. My grey one already plays well, but I havent played it much because im keeping that one mint for the time being. I still suspect it has a little too much lube though, which seems to be the case with most people here. So anyone disappointed in their Vayder, either swap the bearing or clean it. ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1934 "2019-07-08T18:05:05Z")
> [@eternalmetal](#): > > So anyone disappointed in their Vayder, either swap the bearing or clean it. First thing I did; but only because it shipped with a CT (BLEGH!) ![20190629_170310](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/f/a/7fa96d885572dbe5edfd5409300e7d72ad1477a6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1935 "2019-07-08T18:11:29Z")
Any quick thoughts on Ti-Vayder vs Ti-Walker? How similar are they? ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1936 "2019-07-08T18:35:58Z")
I think blindfolded it’d be difficult to tell which is which. ---
**Author:** ![hotei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5fc32e/32.png) [@hotei](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hotei)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1937 "2019-07-08T18:51:12Z")
I immediately put in a NSK DS bearing, my bearing of choice. Both Vayders are smooth as far as I can tell. I really like them. ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1938 "2019-07-08T19:55:03Z")
Pretty similar. I’d love to do a blind test between the two but my Vayder is anodized so it’d be easy to tell. ---
**Author:** ![d42kn355](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d42kn355/32/829_2.png) [@d42kn355](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d42kn355)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1939 "2019-07-08T22:13:35Z")
Acid wash 😃 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/1/5/215d347b3aa922ddf8a14315a77418f9fd3a2f77.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/a/e/9ae0f3f0d814437ca68f8c202050f9b897bd5704.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/a/1/fa1f1bab7c88b764a767c50238f1d238f97e78da.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/6/9/56909dc3074f1351251675c8c2676ce8d1c3f999.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/a/3/5a39b37f49db7ebd13c1ff909df55be9d96af5ae.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/f/3/7f3803b91db40e5e025ae50a21dcd5174551b238.jpeg) [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824.md?page=90) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824.md?page=92)