# The Ti-Vayder Experience **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [March 9, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824 "2019-03-09T00:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 84
**Author:** ![shatterFX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shatterfx/32/66476_2.png) [@shatterFX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shatterFX)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1779 "2019-06-28T13:19:01Z")
If you have a scale, you could choose the two halves closest in weight to ensure at least one of the half swaps play nice ---
**Author:** ![Hanker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hanker/32/628221_2.png) [@Hanker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hanker)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1780 "2019-06-28T13:25:05Z")
No scale but I guess I could just try until I get a half swap that doesn’t vibe or vibes the least. > [@TheThrowingGnome](#): > > Have you tried yet?!? I bet it won’t vibe, but I’d be curious to know. Mines coming in on Monday cos international so I’ll update you then 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1781 "2019-06-28T13:28:29Z")
> [@Post your un-aesthetic half-swaps](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/post-your-un-aesthetic-half-swaps/300103/4): > > _dead smooth on the string_ . You may want to check out this thread. It seems like weight doesn’t affect vibe as much as you think :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Hanker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hanker/32/628221_2.png) [@Hanker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hanker)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1782 "2019-06-28T13:45:07Z")
Hmm that’s interesting :thinking:. I always thought vibe originated from the difference in weight between the halves ---
**Author:** ![gregoryfromearth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregoryfromearth/32/46140_2.png) [@gregoryfromearth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gregoryfromearth)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1783 "2019-06-28T13:45:56Z")
Applying _simple_ physics, weight difference between the two halves shouldn’t inherently lead to vibe. It is weight differences around each half that would cause vibe. Think of a top; it’s very asymmetric along the axis of rotation, but spins fine. Half swaps should tilt, and precess (rotate about the string), but not vibe. Now I would not be surprised if asymmetric half-swaps were more prone to vibe from other effects, but I also was not surprised to see them vibe free. ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1784 "2019-06-28T13:51:47Z")
I have a Battosai/Sky Walker swap that is still super smooth lol. There should be a “yoyo myths debunked” thread if there isn’t one yet. ---
**Author:** ![Malachi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/malachi/32/14039_2.png) [@Malachi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Malachi)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1785 "2019-06-28T14:45:19Z")
Just remember that the Placebo Effect can ignore physics, simple or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![gregoryfromearth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregoryfromearth/32/46140_2.png) [@gregoryfromearth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gregoryfromearth)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1786 "2019-06-28T14:54:58Z")
Always! ---
**Author:** ![Dust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dust/32/83340_2.png) [@Dust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dust)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1787 "2019-06-28T15:41:09Z")
Wife called telling me mines delivered. had her open it up so i knew what number. Got 404! (internet error) Not 420, but still cool enough to make me smile. ---
**Author:** ![Malachi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/malachi/32/14039_2.png) [@Malachi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Malachi)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1788 "2019-06-28T16:10:59Z")
Not that anyone else cares, but a 6mm axle works fine with a half spec (slim) bearing (it ships with an 8mm axle). Due to the height of the bearing seat, it is difficult to use a typical bearing removal tool to remove a half spec, so I would recommend using the “loosest” inner race you have available. It plays fine responsive for me. I have put back the original bearing for the time being, but I’m glad it’s an option. Maybe I’ll put my full ceramic half spec in it some time… ---
**Author:** ![Ajolivarez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ajolivarez/32/75204_2.png) [@Ajolivarez](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ajolivarez)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1789 "2019-06-28T16:41:19Z")
Got bored and so impatient so I did a rush job…(couldn’t find my fixture) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/0/7/90734f83787b3621eee9d290a1ee8742fd1807bb.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/1/3/e13fb94d0fc643d7ee782e933715b5e9b8338d51.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/0/2/60211e52bc0097e0458914c3d66f12fbcfb3e919.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/0/2/c02d2fc115081fa56d7bbcbed1bb0f8399cd00f9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1790 "2019-06-28T16:59:46Z")
I think it looks great! ---
**Author:** ![Imdavid122](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/imdavid122/32/87913_2.png) [@Imdavid122](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Imdavid122)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1791 "2019-06-28T16:59:54Z")
That dont look like a rush job, thats a good job ---
**Author:** ![Ajolivarez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ajolivarez/32/75204_2.png) [@Ajolivarez](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ajolivarez)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1792 "2019-06-28T17:09:01Z")
Now I can carry it without worrying on the finish ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1793 "2019-06-28T18:29:10Z")
Of the subtle changes made, I think these two are my favorite. The Vayder looks a fair bit ‘cleaner’ because of it. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/b/6/cb6977df7936551fa67c2bd49dc9e73a2438b4d5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1794 "2019-06-28T19:23:50Z")
This worked just fine. Hashtag/BigBoi ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/9/3/89348a24c6d80a136cf22501650054b49cdc7911.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1795 "2019-06-28T19:46:00Z")
I completely agree. Those dips weren’t even in the OG CAD. ---
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1796 "2019-06-28T20:34:17Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/3/f/33fd9af3b031146a6c3d755ec927efeb85d0db2f.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/d/8/ad80ff0ba09af32c0db4817a244f54692fbf4798.jpeg) Glamor shots. The ridge on the black actually emulates the ridge on top of Vader’s helmet. Looks so rad. ---
**Author:** ![ThrowButcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwbutcher/32/54388_2.png) [@ThrowButcher](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ThrowButcher)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1797 "2019-06-28T21:07:07Z")
I really have no desire to ‘get with the times.’ I got kids, let them update me ( This comment refers to the phrase used in connection with the forum and in no way reflects my desire for this newfangled TiVayder.) ---
**Author:** ![hotei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5fc32e/32.png) [@hotei](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hotei)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1798 "2019-06-28T21:19:10Z")
How do you do that? Just heat with a torch? I want. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824.md?page=83) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824.md?page=85)