# The Ti-Vayder Experience
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824
**Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers
**Created:** [March 9, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824 "2019-03-09T00:05:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 65
### Author:  [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1395 "2019-06-24T18:04:38Z")
Delayed because someone was out to lunch.
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### Author:  [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1396 "2019-06-24T18:05:52Z")
That would be a big oof
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### Author:  [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1397 "2019-06-24T18:08:00Z")
The list of causes of delays is impressively long, but usually it has to do with the fact that money is take up front (pre-ordering) and then the prototyping phase begins, which can take an unpredictable amount of time because you never know how many iterations it will take before the third party manufacturer gets everything right, and then the manufacturing phase, and then the QA phase, and then the fulfillment phase. Sometimes a project is dependent on another vendor who is so backed up with business that you have to wait months before your turn on their machines comes up, and if any of the projects before yours in the queue have issues (incredibly common), that delays your project, etc.
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### Author:  [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1398 "2019-06-24T18:10:48Z")
> [@shatterFX](#):
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> My guess is someone has to sign for a package of that value, maybe no one was there?
I think that’ll say “delivery attempt” or something like that. Not sure though.
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### Author:  [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1399 "2019-06-24T18:29:32Z")
> [@zslane](#):
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> The list of causes of delays is impressively long, but usually it has to do with the fact that money is take up front (pre-ordering) and then the prototyping phase begins, which can take an unpredictable amount of time because you never know how many iterations it will take before the third party manufacturer gets everything right, and then the manufacturing phase, and then the QA phase, and then the fulfillment phase. Sometimes a project is dependent on another vendor who is so backed up with business that you have to wait months before your turn on their machines comes up, and if any of the projects before yours in the queue have issues (incredibly common), that delays your project, etc.
And all that for a Cherry MX clone. Give me Topre or buckling springs or death.
edit: Delay when it was out for delivery? This is one of the rare ones in my experience. Maybe the UPS driver couldnt lift the package and decided screw it?
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### Author:  [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1400 "2019-06-24T18:43:59Z")
how heavy can 500 yoyos be?
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### Author:  [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1401 "2019-06-24T18:44:51Z")
63 pounds according to the UPS tracking data.
edit: 5, 3, same number…
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### Author:  [@dam720](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dam720)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1402 "2019-06-24T18:44:56Z")
63lbs according to UPS
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### Author:  [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1403 "2019-06-24T18:45:48Z")
oof lol
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### Author:  [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1404 "2019-06-24T18:51:21Z")
Maybe the truck is having a mechanical issue.
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### Author:  [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1405 "2019-06-24T18:54:29Z")
A box of titanium yoyos broke the truck! haha! 😅
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### Author:  [@Jtown](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jtown)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1406 "2019-06-24T19:08:26Z")
I had work shipments originally scheduled for delivery today and all weekend I kept getting rescheduled and changed delivery time emails… However, the packages were delivered today as originally scheduled. I imagine they were having software issues.
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### Author:  [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1407 "2019-06-24T20:18:55Z")
I just need mine to arrive so I can pull the trigger on my next purchase.
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### Author:  [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1408 "2019-06-24T20:19:58Z")
Just curious but why does one have to happen before the other?
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### Author:  [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1409 "2019-06-24T20:21:00Z")
For my own peace of mind. My illogical thought process doesn’t let reason intervene.
Edit: while on the topic of buying new yo-yos, I think it’s awesome how far we’ve come as far as being consumer friendly. After my next purchase I’ll have bought a titanium yo-yo, a bi metal and two other non-b grade metals for like 300$.
Last time I was around that would probably be 500$ at least.
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### Author:  [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1410 "2019-06-24T20:25:53Z")
Yoyos are best enjoyed one at a time. Ive made bulk purchases before and have made some unfair comparisons in the past.
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### Author:  [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1411 "2019-06-24T20:35:20Z")
I have a Bounce and a Bowl (and a couple of cheap YYF B-grades) on the way to hold me over until my TiVayders arrive. I can’t let the unpredictable nature of the TiVayder deliveries keep me from making yoyo purchases in the mean time. I’d go crazy!
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### Author:  [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1412 "2019-06-24T20:53:17Z")
I might just have to go ahead and buy some stuff to cross off my list. I don’t have a long list of wants, so it’s not like I plan on continuously splurging on yo-yos. I’m really just looking to try out some design trends I missed out on and seeing if it alters my preferences in any way.
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### Author:  [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1413 "2019-06-24T21:25:45Z")
We are delivered boys!
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### Author:  [@Dust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dust)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1414 "2019-06-24T21:28:20Z")
HUZZAH!!
Lets go!
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