# The Ti-Vayder Experience

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824>\
**Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\
**Created:** [March 9, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824 "2019-03-09T00:05:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1333 "2019-06-18T21:39:42Z")

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I think you’ll be alright man.

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**Author:** ![WickerWraith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wickerwraith/32/60872_2.png) [@WickerWraith](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WickerWraith)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1334 "2019-06-18T22:15:33Z")

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hopefully, but next paydate is looking like the 30th, and there were the least raws made of all the colourways… although panic is also just second nature for me :joy:

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1335 "2019-06-18T22:42:02Z")

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I’m not really worried. Hoping to get the money by shipping time but if not I can also wait for some to hit on the secondary market in a few weeks too

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**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1336 "2019-06-18T22:47:34Z")

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> [@andy569](#):
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> some to hit on the secondary market in a few weeks too

I’ll be surprised if many of these show up on the bst actually. They will likely still be available new for a while at a really cheap price all things considered.

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1337 "2019-06-18T22:48:21Z")

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As long as having a particular color isn’t more important than having one at all, it shouldn’t be a problem for some time to come.

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1338 "2019-06-18T22:48:23Z")

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That’s the goal! Put an amazing & legendary titanium yo-yo in the hands of as many players as possible for a super reasonable – some would say heretofore unknown – price!

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**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1339 "2019-06-18T23:13:52Z")

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Seriously, at $140 brand new I doubt this will be a big BST seller until original stock is gone. With a limit of 2 (is this being enforced at checkout?), I dont think anyone is going to throw irt twice and be willing to sell it for $120. If anything smart buyers who want to sell will hold on and sell it for standard price I would think. Sales for the initial buy imo will last at least a month, probably more. I think this will sell out in 2 or 3 months tops given coding’s diligence.

@codinghorror - I said the same thing on Reddit, and I was pointed to a few Ti yoyos that were sold for $140. This aint the only one, but probably the best of the bunch.

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1340 "2019-06-18T23:18:09Z")

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What I’m curious to know is what the value of these will be 5-10 years down the line

It’s gonna be a while til I get an answer to that question though 🙃

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1341 "2019-06-18T23:26:56Z")

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> [@eternalmetal](#):
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> I was pointed to a few Ti yoyos that were sold for $140. This aint the only one, but probably the best of the bunch.

Which ones?

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1342 "2019-06-18T23:27:10Z")

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Their value will be a function of supply and demand. There may be 500 in existence, but only a tiny fraction of them will be available for sale at any give time. A smart seller who sees lots of people posting "LF"s and not many people posting "FS"s will set their price accordingly.

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**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1343 "2019-06-18T23:30:22Z")

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_insert some overseas yoyo no one here has heard of_

It’s really ok either way. The price is/was just sprinkles on the icing of the cake that is this project.

I’d confidently put this design against any titanium yoyo that retails/retailed at $140 or under sight unseen.

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**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1344 "2019-06-18T23:49:16Z")

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In regards to value of these long term:

I personally think that the community will eventually through some means logical or illogical get fixated on a color (and subsequently a “2nd place” color) that most people will want.

That could be wrong though.

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1345 "2019-06-19T00:20:36Z")

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Could y’all do me a favor? Could you ping [https://www.instagram.com/bindmagazine/](https://www.instagram.com/bindmagazine/) and get them to mention the Vayder release? I’d appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1346 "2019-06-19T00:26:17Z")

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They said they were more than happy to do so, I don’t know exactly what the holdup is though.

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**Author:** ![Rosenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rosenberg/32/20465_2.png) [@Rosenberg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosenberg)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1347 "2019-06-19T00:56:23Z")

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Boi gimme that gray 187

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1348 "2019-06-19T01:26:24Z")

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I confirmed with our fulfillment person that she will begin filling orders as soon as the shipment arrives Monday 6/24, they already started constructing the boxes to get ready.

@HVizier did his part, here’s the proof to [go with the pictures](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1290) above:

[https://www.ups.com/track?loc=en\_US&tracknum=1zwx68350397073345](https://www.ups.com/track?loc=en_US&tracknum=1zwx68350397073345)

There are still about ~80 Vayders left to pack and ship to SF but that’s more than enough en route right now to fulfill all outstanding orders and then some.

(Can I mention how happy I am that I don’t have to be in charge of _shipping_ all this stuff? That’d be nightmare mode…)

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1349 "2019-06-19T01:47:42Z")

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> [@Cptawesom3](#):
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> Damn international shipping for over 1/3 the price of the yo just killed all my hype

Try again, last week we reset the options for ‘safe’ countries from DHL verified to USPS, based on Noona’s recommendations.

> [@vegabomb](#):
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> I think @codinghorror said that the gray in the initial batch was a little darker than he intended

Actually that’s a change FPM made all on their own with no input from me, oddly enough… but I definitely do agree with it after seeing both, the new grey is _reaaalllllyyy_ nice!

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**Author:** ![skklexie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skklexie/32/42925_2.png) [@skklexie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skklexie)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1350 "2019-06-19T02:11:25Z")

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> [@codinghorror](#):
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> Try again, last week we reset the options for ‘safe’ countries from DHL verified to USPS, based on Noona’s recommendations.

thank you very much for fixing this, i appreciate it very much!

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**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1351 "2019-06-19T23:05:41Z")

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Did not panic. If the raw I get is NOT 69, and no international homies need a proxy, it’s all yours and I’ll even ship it to you for the cost of the throw. I really shouldn’t have bought a second one, lol.

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**Author:** ![WickerWraith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wickerwraith/32/60872_2.png) [@WickerWraith](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WickerWraith)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1352 "2019-06-19T23:07:30Z")

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thanks man, i appreciate it. although i am technically international, i live in canada.

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