# The Ti-Vayder Experience **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [March 9, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824 "2019-03-09T00:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1035 "2019-06-12T18:16:28Z")
> [@YoYoExpertGarrett](#): > > I remember the Ti-Yo being $125 also I actually just found my receipt from Kickstarter on it this past weekend and threw it away. I’m 99% certain it was $125 from Kickstarter. Paypal only goes back to June 2016 so I can’t confirm. Going to text Sonny and see what he remembers. I think something changed on that archived Kickstarter, those prices don’t seem right. The black pvd I remember being $195, the brushed being $175. ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1037 "2019-06-12T18:17:41Z")
No doubt. I’m not expecting these to sell out today. It has no retail partner aside from Andre allowing Jeff to use his forum to this degree. All it has is word of mouth and hype. Based on that the project is going quite well. ---
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1039 "2019-06-12T18:18:39Z")
First day total sales will be so interesting! I would think first day would be bomb, then a substantial drop off, but this is all total conjecture. I’m a stats and analysis dude by trade and honestly enjoy numbers so this is not only super fun from the yoyo angle but just the uniqueness of this sales exercise. Very interesting and cool project you guys!!! Props to you @codinghorror and @HVizier ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1040 "2019-06-12T18:19:34Z")
My absolute favorite thing to do for VsNYYC runs was to watch the quantity drop down to 0 on retail stores. ---
**Author:** ![One4All](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/one4all/32/649615_2.png) [@One4All](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/One4All)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1041 "2019-06-12T18:19:55Z")
Do you have Auto Fill? ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1043 "2019-06-12T18:21:28Z")
Nothing wrong with that! The Ti-Yo was seemingly made to produce the cheapest titanium yoyo possible with the goal of putting a Ti yoyo in as many hands as possible. Regardless of whether it was cheaper than $140 or not it met those goals. I can only hope this project attains it’s goals as well. ---
**Author:** ![One4All](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/one4all/32/649615_2.png) [@One4All](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/One4All)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1045 "2019-06-12T18:25:16Z")
Maybe try it on a different browser? ---
**Author:** ![qpalmz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/77aa72/32.png) [@qpalmz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/qpalmz)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1046 "2019-06-12T18:25:41Z")
Oh man I’m so excited. In for a grey! This will be my first high end yoyo, and first purchased for full retail price. I’m kind of new to the hobby but this seems like such a cool thing to be a part of 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1047 "2019-06-12T18:27:42Z")
Excellent! I hope you enjoy it! ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1048 "2019-06-12T18:29:13Z")
> [@HVizier](#): > > The Ti-Yo was seemingly made to produce the cheapest titanium yoyo possible with the goal of putting a Ti yoyo in as many hands as possible Was a continuation of the BSP. It was a mash up of the Kuntosh and BSP. The goal wasn’t making a low price ti, or putting it in a lot of peoples hands (I believe around 125 were made) it was a design that Sonny wanted made and worked with Mike Bond to do it. The fact that it was a titanium, fully designed and machined in the USA, and made profits at the prices it sold at is pretty cool. It’s a really fun yoyo, but different than a Walker/Vayder. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1049 "2019-06-12T18:29:21Z")
I wasn’t able to complete it on a web browser. I ended up using Google Pay through my phone’s browser instead of the normal checkout that wouldn’t load at all. ---
**Author:** ![One4All](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/one4all/32/649615_2.png) [@One4All](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/One4All)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1051 "2019-06-12T18:31:49Z")
Oh Dang, not that i know of, thats really expensive…i would proxy it to you but i can only get 2 and bought mine already:[, maybe someone can help? ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1052 "2019-06-12T18:33:20Z")
International shipping (and by that I mean outside US/Canada) is … tricky. Our fulfillment person says up to 10% loss rate unless we go with the verified tracking which is unfortunately a fair bit more expensive. Honestly I don’t have anywhere near enough extras on hand to cover a 10% loss rate, so … it is what it is. You could have someone in the US buy it for you, and ship it to you via a cheaper more risky method perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1054 "2019-06-12T18:37:23Z")
> [@YoYoExpertGarrett](#): > > I remember the Ti-Yo being $125 also. > [@AaronW](#): > > Going to text Sonny and see what he remembers Sonny couldn’t remember either. Oh well 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1055 "2019-06-12T18:39:31Z")
Would it have been sold _outside_ the Kickstarter? Because the Kickstarter page clearly says $175 ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1056 "2019-06-12T18:40:58Z")
Neat! The more you know 😀 ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1058 "2019-06-12T18:44:21Z")
A medium flat rate priority international box is $71.00, a small is $36.00. I’m not sure where the $80.00 comes from (unless they add a handling fee). An assembled yoyo won’t fit safely in a small flat rate box. Ironically I ordered a green skywalker from YYE years ago that showed up in a small flat rate and it came smashed. The axle was actually bent I think. @AndreBoulay quickly replaced it for me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Malachi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/malachi/32/14039_2.png) [@Malachi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Malachi)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1059 "2019-06-12T18:44:44Z")
So, will this thing accept a half-spec bearing? ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1060 "2019-06-12T18:45:03Z")
This is DHL though, which is viewed as more reliable. I dunno, I go with her advice, she’s done all this much more than me. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/1061 "2019-06-12T18:45:54Z")
Dang it, today is the day my GF picked to be stuck at the DMV where she can’t help me get a gray Vayder. 😖 [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824.md?page=49) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824.md?page=51)