# The Ti-Vayder Experience **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [March 9, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824 "2019-03-09T00:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/519 "2019-05-22T21:44:09Z")
I mean, you initiated by being a smart Alec lol. All in good fun man. ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/520 "2019-05-22T21:54:03Z")
In regards to the H debate here, I personally don’t really think H was ever properly defined either. An “H”less Ti Walker/Vayder would make for very little play difference over the original and this new 2019 variant. Hmmmmm. Maybe next time… ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/521 "2019-05-22T22:51:12Z")
> [@yyfben2.deactivated](#): > > I dont agree either. For the edification of all, here is the epitome of the “H” shaped yoyo… ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/3/f/33f46d96aabbaee037e8e36a2de363f5c59578bf.png) ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/522 "2019-05-22T22:56:17Z")
Thanks to all that edge distortion, it looks more like a “(=)” yoyo rather than a “|=|” (H) yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![WickerWraith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wickerwraith/32/60872_2.png) [@WickerWraith](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WickerWraith)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/523 "2019-05-22T22:56:45Z")
I’d say that’s agreeable. Although I think it’s undisputed that the glacier express is h shaped as well. ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/524 "2019-05-22T23:48:57Z")
Took a quick pic of my Ti Vayder earlier. 😁 ![TiVayder](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/a/a/baaabce362f6ee6f245cb658ce8fdfaa4a8559c2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/525 "2019-05-22T23:49:17Z")
ooo fancy Garrett magic balance photos, I’m honored! ✨ ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/526 "2019-05-22T23:50:03Z")
The least I can do for a new yo-yo! :+1: ---
**Author:** ![Saber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saber/32/52611_2.png) [@Saber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Saber)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/527 "2019-05-23T00:21:39Z")
How… ---
**Author:** ![Hanker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hanker/32/628221_2.png) [@Hanker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hanker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/528 "2019-05-23T00:24:55Z")
> [@yyfben2.deactivated](#): > > I dont agree either. Same sentiments here. I feel like these kinds of yoyos are more bell shaped than anything else. In my opinion, H shaped yoyos are yoyos like the Mowl Surveillance and Surveil and iYoYo Firrox and Iceberg. I usually have to call these yoyos hard H shapes or aggressive H shapes because people classify yoyos like the Vayder a H shape. Absolutely love these hard H shapes btw. ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/529 "2019-05-23T00:59:26Z")
Fishing wire and good lighting/editing ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/530 "2019-05-23T03:06:37Z")
Incarnate is my favorite EXTREME H™ ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/531 "2019-05-23T03:41:28Z")
Seconded, Incarnate is suuuper good. ---
**Author:** ![Hanker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hanker/32/628221_2.png) [@Hanker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hanker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/533 "2019-05-23T08:15:04Z")
Agreed. I also own one and it’s real nice in the hand. Slipped my mind when thinking up examples of H shaped yoyos haha 😅 > [@adamantiumpops](#): > > Incarnate is my favorite EXTREME H™ Probably my second favourite EXTREME H™. My favourite is the iYoYo Firrox 7075 which happens to be my favourite yoyo so far too ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/534 "2019-05-23T11:46:02Z")
> [@smileypants707](#): > > Fishing wire and good lighting/editing ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/a/9/6a9521833c85d031d213a90074ad077097677503.gif "Danny Devito Smh GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY") ---
**Author:** ![Saber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saber/32/52611_2.png) [@Saber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Saber)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/535 "2019-05-23T15:53:56Z")
I think I have an idea. A counterweight or similar sized object in the cup? ---
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/536 "2019-05-23T16:53:46Z")
I’m gonna go with “just dropped that sucker and took a picture while it fell” ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/537 "2019-05-23T17:34:39Z")
He’s using The Farce to levitate it. I mean, The Force. ---
**Author:** ![Saber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saber/32/52611_2.png) [@Saber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Saber)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/538 "2019-05-23T17:35:19Z")
I hear this in his voice on loop… nope ---
**Author:** ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/539 "2019-05-23T17:47:28Z")
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