# The Ti-Vayder Experience

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824>\
**Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\
**Created:** [March 9, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824 "2019-03-09T00:05:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/439 "2019-05-21T02:59:58Z")

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I purposefully denied myself hype over this, which made today’s mail day even more spectacular. I’m so glad I wasn’t crawling up the walls with anticipation over this, it is a very very pleasant surprise. Thanks @codinghorror! 🖤🖤🖤

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**Author:** ![shatterFX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shatterfx/32/66476_2.png) [@shatterFX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shatterFX)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/440 "2019-05-21T03:31:23Z")

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Super jealous! Maybe I can afford one when they show up on BST in a couple years lol

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**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/441 "2019-05-21T03:34:00Z")

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Wow, that’s pretty cool just getting one out of the blue!

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/442 "2019-05-21T05:08:52Z")

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So is it the best yoyo you’ve ever thrown :joy:

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/443 "2019-05-21T05:09:39Z")

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Idk yet I’m still in shock.

It’s a pretty sweet H shaped yoyo though :wink:😇

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**Author:** ![beeebon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beeebon/32/30672_2.png) [@beeebon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beeebon)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/444 "2019-05-21T06:05:04Z")

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The pictures of the profile that I have seen just SCREAMS H shape. Anyone who doesn’t think so obviously knows nothing about yoyos.

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/445 "2019-05-21T06:06:32Z")

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**Author:** ![beeebon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beeebon/32/30672_2.png) [@beeebon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beeebon)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/446 "2019-05-21T06:17:45Z")

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I did! Look at my post! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cassauk33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Cassauk33](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cassauk33)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/447 "2019-05-21T08:21:07Z")

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How do i get my hands on one im in the uk ?

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**Author:** ![Lukoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lukoyo/32/24789_2.png) [@Lukoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lukoyo)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/448 "2019-05-21T09:10:12Z")

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Good shout.

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**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/449 "2019-05-21T13:45:35Z")

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Thread needs more hype about play now that the cool kids are getting theirs.

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**Author:** ![Egon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/egon/32/53004_2.png) [@Egon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Egon)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/450 "2019-05-21T13:49:06Z")

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Agreed @eternalmetal  
Is this the “Stradivarius Of Yo-Yo’s”  
I suspect so. I also can’t think of a throw with a better backstory.

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/451 "2019-05-21T14:03:20Z")

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How does it play? This yoyo likes to party! Hot damn, this is one hell of a player. It is my first ti, so I’m not use to this kind of weight distribution.

It feels powerful and stable like a bimetal, but it plays light and nimble too. Floaty is a word that I would use to describe the play of this yoyo.

It’s a trip, it feels simultaneously weighty and light. And that classic ti sound.

Excellent at regens, snappy response, stable but not too stable…

Just a really cool thing altogether. Don’t miss out on this one!

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**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/452 "2019-05-21T14:33:41Z")

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Tell me about that black finish Smiley! Fingergrinds and spins on par with a blasted aluminum throw?

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**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/453 "2019-05-21T14:34:34Z")

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Not a pro, but judging by my D!ckrunner that nipple is pretty restrictive of fingerspins.

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/454 "2019-05-21T14:43:57Z")

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Lol, nipple.

@TheThrowingGnome unless your hands are clean, dry, and possibly doused with talcum powder, I don’t think this is going to be much of a finger grinding yoyo. I have not attempted a finger spin yet, but I bet it’s possible. It wasn’t made for them, but I bet you could sneak a few in if you knew what you were doing.

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**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/455 "2019-05-21T16:00:16Z")

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I generally prefer a nipple or flat cup or spike to fingerspin around honestly. The static spins on a cup that are centering tend to get old to me after a while.

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**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/456 "2019-05-21T16:03:17Z")

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Well like I said I’m no expert. I have gotten one or two fingerspins down on the D-Runner before I painted the cup, but it was a PITA.

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**Author:** ![Drakkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drakkar/32/230080_2.png) [@Drakkar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Drakkar)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/457 "2019-05-21T16:26:17Z")

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You can’t fingerspin like that on any Walker variant or any yo-yo that has that bump in the middle. Spikes work differently because they keep your finger locked in. Bumps are flat and your finger will immediately slip. That being said, you can still do a fingerspin on it without utilizing the center bump, but it will only last a few seconds.

To clarify, I don’t have a Vayder, only a Walker and a Runner, the latter of which is a little faster.

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**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/458 "2019-05-21T16:31:42Z")

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> [@Drakkar](#):
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> without utilizing the center bump, but it will only last a few seconds.

This is what I’m talking about. I’m not trying to fingerspin for more than a few seconds, but I prefer it if I can throw one in there if I want to. Sounds like I should get a raw or 2 and do a stonewash on it :thinking:

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