# The Ti-Vayder Experience **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [March 9, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824 "2019-03-09T00:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/246 "2019-03-13T21:16:00Z")
Oh, my bad… I don’t think I’m very good at operational security. I forgot that it wasn’t public yet. Not sure what else I know that isn’t public, but I’ll keep my mouth shut about anything else 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pspeer12](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pspeer12/32/49161_2.png) [@pspeer12](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pspeer12)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/247 "2019-03-13T21:16:13Z")
So what you are saying is they will go fast… lol 😭😩😭 ---
**Author:** ![FourCorner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fourcorner/32/122296_2.png) [@FourCorner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FourCorner)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/248 "2019-03-13T21:18:08Z")
Will this be the first Ti yoyo to have a swirl on it? ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/249 "2019-03-13T21:18:20Z")
_Thanks a lot, Mark_ 🙄😄 ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/250 "2019-03-13T21:21:28Z")
Maybe the “dark side” version will have Darth Maul style tribal patterns on it! ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/251 "2019-03-13T21:23:48Z")
> [@HVizier](#): > > Or the YYF Ricochet (almost positive it was 500) Well in that case, it sounds like this run isn’t all that big if it’s been done before. ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/252 "2019-03-13T21:23:58Z")
Maybe they’ll all be banana scented! Lol, but maybe… ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/253 "2019-03-13T21:25:53Z")
Well, technically it is bigger now. Removing the ceramic bearing opened up a bit of budget and FPM preferred we fill that budget with more yo-yos rather than refunding… so the actual complete run size is now 536. I am keeping the 36 for my own “special friends” purposes and those won’t be numbered though. ---
**Author:** ![JWaugh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jwaugh/32/42366_2.png) [@JWaugh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JWaugh)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/254 "2019-03-13T21:46:26Z")
Will you still mark them? Wondering if those 36 are going to be even closer to the original because they aren’t marked? ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/255 "2019-03-13T22:05:36Z")
> special friends Hey Jeff we haven’t caught up in a while how ya been :joy::joy::wink: ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/256 "2019-03-13T23:08:17Z")
Incredibly doubtful ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/257 "2019-03-13T23:37:50Z")
I closed the poll as we have enough data now, and made this update edit to the first post, which I am duplicating here so more people can see it. > [@codinghorror](#): > > Based on polling, the final release will be available in these colorway allocations with these specific engraved numbers: > > - 135 raw (1 - 135) > - 200 grey (136 - 335) > - 165 black (336 - 500) Since there were more than a few requests for **specific numbers** , I _think_ this will be possible with our fulfillment service… but you need to square your desire for a specific number with your desire for specific colorways, as you can see above ☝ The overall numbering sequence was @HVizier’s idea… you go from the “light side” to the “dark side” over time :wink: (Oh and just to emphasize, we won’t be using leading zeros on the numbers when engraving in case the protos having “000” on them spooked you.) ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/258 "2019-03-13T23:39:13Z")
This also doesn’t mean you won’t see other Ti-Vayders in the wild that aren’t these colors. Merely that these are the standard release colors. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/259 "2019-03-13T23:40:56Z")
Other colors would have to come in a future run though, since the totals for the three “standard release colors” add up to 500, which is the total size of this run, right? ---
**Author:** ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/260 "2019-03-13T23:42:26Z")
How will be be able to request a specific number? ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/261 "2019-03-13T23:42:53Z")
Some numbers will be pulled by Heath, I think 5 total. He’s earned that right as the creator, I think :wink: We may do special stuff with some of the 36 extras, and there _may_ be b-grades delivered on top of that. We’re not entirely sure yet. ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/262 "2019-03-13T23:43:02Z")
Not completely incorrect, but not correct either. The total serialized run is 1-500 The total run is 536. Anything you see outside of those colors will be rather special. ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/265 "2019-03-13T23:46:43Z")
The number reservations would be done through the fulfillment service Jeff spoke about. Posting about it here will unfortunately do you no good. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/266 "2019-03-13T23:47:10Z")
~~Y’all can create a number topic to express desire and dibs on specific numbers. Don’t do it here.~~ Do not do this. ~~My official response is: **no guarantees on number reservations but I’ll do my best, if I can make it happen, I will**.~~ We’re not doing this, sorry! ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/267 "2019-03-13T23:50:05Z")
So the special colors will belong to the 36 “extra” yoyos, which only get in the hands of some inner circle of friends (and others anointed with special privilege) of the makers. If the goal is to make a set of yoyos even more sought after in the collector market than the original TiWalker, I think you will succeed handsomely. 😜 [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824.md?page=14)