# The Ti-Vayder Experience **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [March 9, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824 "2019-03-09T00:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/226 "2019-03-13T19:19:44Z")
You’re welcome. Thank you for allowing me the time to clarify. I will discuss other release info with Jeff and see what he is comfortable releasing beyond what I’ve already said. ---
**Author:** ![feryuweryu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/feryuweryu/32/42092_2.png) [@feryuweryu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/feryuweryu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/227 "2019-03-13T19:52:00Z")
I also won’t say Heath is trustworthy just yet , but I believe in redemption and most importantly I believe in Jeff. ---
**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/228 "2019-03-13T20:02:39Z")
I believe I’m going to play some perfect dark two handed just because it’s difficult. ![IMG_20190313_095115_367](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/d/3/dd3c13c6ce1bda960fac5227d04dc84ab883eab6.jpeg) like I said not a penny from me. Have a nice day!! ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/229 "2019-03-13T20:06:50Z")
> [@HVizier](#): > > I tested the proto and gave the project an official collaboration green light, and will be hand testing each individual yoyo after production before shipping them to whomever Jeff sees fit. To be clear on this part, the actual fulfillment of the orders will be handled by a fulfillment company. So Heath will get the yo-yos (already assembled in trays), string them and final test them, put them in boxes with the extras (TBD), apply the stickers to the boxes, and then **ship the whole kaboodle to a fulfillment company.** I was going to use blackbox but they are all booked up. So it is looking like we’ll use [shipbob.com](http://shipbob.com) at this point. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/230 "2019-03-13T20:44:17Z")
How long does it take to test 500 yoyos? ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/231 "2019-03-13T20:45:09Z")
Are there really that many?!? 😲 ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/232 "2019-03-13T20:45:21Z")
Testing, packaging, and signing will take 7-10 days. 50 a day on average based on that number. ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/233 "2019-03-13T20:47:20Z")
But, I will likely be off of work at least 1-2 of those days so those days will get substantially more done. ---
**Author:** ![Dust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dust/32/83340_2.png) [@Dust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dust)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/234 "2019-03-13T20:49:36Z")
That number was not supposed to be told yet . . . :open_mouth: ---
**Author:** ![mrciurleo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@mrciurleo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mrciurleo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/235 "2019-03-13T20:49:58Z")
Is there going to be a VsNyyc engraving on the yoyo? Personally hope not because that and the number engraving would really make it look like the original. ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/236 "2019-03-13T20:54:17Z")
It will be different enough on that front. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/237 "2019-03-13T20:54:35Z")
Yeah you kinda spilled the beans here my man. Oh well :wink: ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/238 "2019-03-13T20:55:30Z")
Why would that be kept a secret? ---
**Author:** ![Dust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dust/32/83340_2.png) [@Dust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dust)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/239 "2019-03-13T20:56:16Z")
Not secret, just not released yet. or had not been till this point. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/240 "2019-03-13T21:00:37Z")
To put that number in perspective, 500 is equivalent to a One Drop “limited run” like the Marquis (400) or the Mantis (600). ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/241 "2019-03-13T21:01:40Z")
Or the YYF Ricochet (almost positive it was 500) ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/242 "2019-03-13T21:07:11Z")
Sounds like a number of people not involved with the project knew, so yeah, definitely wasn’t a secret :joy: ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/243 "2019-03-13T21:08:21Z")
Was thinking too of what the largest Ti release was and the Ricochet came to mind, couldn’t remember the size of that run. When I was planning an independent run of 100 ti yoyo’s I thought I was crazy! Can’t imagine doing a run of 500, but that’s pretty awesome! ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/244 "2019-03-13T21:10:30Z")
How was @markd “not involved” with the project? Re-read the first post… ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ti-vayder-experience/299824/245 "2019-03-13T21:12:07Z")
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