# The Shape Game

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [July 7, 2013, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159 "2013-07-07T06:51:11Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/1 "2013-07-07T06:51:11Z")

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I won’t hesitate to tell you what I know. But, I will readily admit what I don’t know. So, I need you guys to help me out. I read reviews and descriptions describing yo-yo shapes as “H,” “V,” Bell Shaped or Organic/Classic. Usually, I see them described as one of the four. I understand the Bell and Organic/Classic (I think), but not always sure if I’m seeing more of an H or a V.

Should I be looking at the area from the bearing to the rims, at the top of the yo-yo on both sides? I imagine so, but I decided to turn this into a game. I will post a photo, and you can tell me if it’s an H or a V. I’m hoping this will help me learn, or perhaps we will discover that not everyone agrees on shape anyway. Here’s the first photo. If we agree, we’ll move on to the next photo. I will not reveal what the yo-yo is until we agree, but if you recognize it…cool:

First photo:

[http://i.imgur.com/9e2eruG.jpg](http://imgur.com/9e2eruG)

I will now keep track with a list of yo-yos covered so far here on page 1:

1. Evilyo (Gfunk covered here for comparison)
2. Theory
3. Elranchero
4. Echo
5. Exit8 (Cascade covered here for comparison)
6. Supra
7. Trinity
8. Punchline repeater
9. Ozone
10. Gelada
11. Ronin
12. Monkeyfist
13. Omnicron X
14. Maverick
15. 9.06
16. Raptor
17. Lagoutte
18. Lab Experiment 1
19. Sun
20. Noctu
21. Legacy
22. Rev 1 Overhaul
23. io
24. KLR
25. Macrocosm
26. Popstar
27. Protostar
28. Spyder II
29. Ministar
30. HOT
31. Gnarwhal
32. Drop Bear
33. Dang
34. Yelets
35. Dibase
36. Superwide
37. Tarasqus
38. Adjust-o-Matic
39. Aware
40. Megatron
41. Overdrive
42. Catalyst
43. Avant Garde
44. MMN
45. Oxy 5
46. Cafe Racer
47. Dingo
48. Addiction
49. Speeder 2
50. Model 10
51. volume
52. Whistler
53. Radian 2
54. Entheos
55. Majesty
56. Cliff
57. Wrath
58. Zen 4
59. SR-71
60. DieNasty
61. Token
62. YFactor
63. Severe
64. Chaser
65. Gung Fu
66. Genesis
67. Code2
68. Reverb
69. Torrent II
70. Xcon Pro
71. Void
72. Roll Model
73. Essence
74. Burnside
75. Sovereign
76. Summit
77. 54
78. 2.0
79. Dri-Ywet
80. DV888
81. Berserker
82. Cosmo
83. Chief
84. St. Eel
85. Blood Brother 1
86. Dark Magic II
87. Code 1
88. PSG
89. Super G
90. Revolution
91. Dash
92. Kickside
93. Barracuda
94. BVM2
95. Blind Orbiter
96. Arctic Circle
97. Pocket Rocket
98. Avalanche
99. Flea
100. Classic

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/2 "2013-07-07T06:57:02Z")

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I love this throw, it’s so unique! One of my favorite throws, yet I don’t know the proper name for the shape! I’m not totally sure, but this looks like a V, but I feel an even better ID for it would be U shape.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/3 "2013-07-07T06:59:44Z")

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> [@Big\_cat](#):
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> One of my favorite throws, yet I don’t know the proper name for the shape! I would maybe call this a U shape? A flared V? I love this throw, it’s so unique!

Thanks Big Cat. Yeah, I stared at that one awhile. I was thinking H but, don’t know what it looks like. We’ll let a few others chime in…curious what they will say. :-\ I definitely see a “U” though 😃

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/4 "2013-07-07T08:15:20Z")

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I would say that’s a v/u shape. h shaped, to my understanding anyway, have some kind of defined lip  
like the g5 or g-funk.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/5 "2013-07-07T08:29:40Z")

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Okay, I’ll post a GFunk pic for reference. Please tell me which part of the yo-yo is the “lip.”

[http://i.imgur.com/nlfGNNy.jpg](http://imgur.com/nlfGNNy)

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/6 "2013-07-07T08:33:08Z")

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First pic was an Evilyo…now what would you call this second one? Also a U?

[http://i.imgur.com/3Gjaq3q.jpg](http://imgur.com/3Gjaq3q)

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/7 "2013-07-07T08:39:59Z")

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I’d say that’s more a sloped V. The cuts are a lot more angular than the sweeping, almost elegant lines of the first one.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/8 "2013-07-07T08:47:14Z")

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> [@TamOcello](#):
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> I’d say that’s more a sloped V. The cuts are a lot more angular than the sweeping, almost elegant lines of the first one.

Definitely not as round of a “U” as the first one, but still not a sharp V either. Some version of a V I’d agree. :-\ I think what confused me initially was not realizing there was a “U” I could use to describe things. Sometimes an “H” or “V” didn’t fit. 😃

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/9 "2013-07-07T09:03:53Z")

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> [@TotalArtist](#):
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> Okay, I’ll post a GFunk pic for reference. Please tell me which part of the yo-yo is the “lip.”

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/0/0/f006b5377366bcf28b69bb1b017183f1c1d6b571.jpeg)  
that’s always been my take.  
Also, the classic I believe would be a V shape, as it has a less concave catch zone.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/10 "2013-07-07T09:14:13Z")

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Ah, I see now. It’s that little dip in the yo-yo where the horizontal line meets the vertical, that had been a point of confusion. Also, the fact that when looking at the yo-yo…you sort of have to draw the lines in your head. So, part of the H shape is determined by the perpendicular intersecting lines it seems. I’ll be looking for that! The graphic helped. Thanks. 🙂 That last one was a Theory.

Now, for the third photo:

[http://i.imgur.com/bl9Tidv.jpg](http://imgur.com/bl9Tidv)

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/11 "2013-07-07T09:17:58Z")

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Ok I’ve always thought that there are 6 categories:

V: In this category there is a typically slope straight to the response and bearing seat. This can be curved or straight. In some cases it has two steps like the Rayoyo Chupacabra. The C3yoyodesign Yeah3 ha a “Double V”. In which there are 2 v shapes in one.  
Ex. C3yoyodesign Yeah3

H: I’ve always thought about an h shape like this. There are two distinct parts. The outer (rim) and inner (catch zone). As you go from the outside of the yoyo you are on the outer there is a step after that step you have the inner. Ex. Yoyofactory Geneses

Bell: I think about as if you took a bell and put response and a bearing and attached to another one.  
Ex. One Drop Cascade:

Organic: I’m not sure exactly how to explain this. The best I can do is a picture. Ex. Ilyy St. Eel

U: Pretty self explanatory. If you look at the yoyo while put together the top half of the shape will make a u.  
Ex. Yoyojam Titan 3.

Imperial/Modified: Used for looping. Small catch zone. The exact opposite of organic. Ex. Yoyojam Unleashed

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/12 "2013-07-07T09:19:33Z")

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H with a nice curve from the rims.  
Dat El Ranchero, always loved their engravings!

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/13 "2013-07-07T09:23:37Z")

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> [@DrAwesome](#):
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> Ok I’ve always thought that there are 6 categories:
> 
> V: In this category there is a typically slope straight to the response and bearing seat. This can be curved or straight. In some cases it has two steps like the Rayoyo Chupacabra. The C3yoyodesign Yeah3 ha a “Double V”. In which there are 2 v shapes in one.  
> Ex.[http://http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/577/C3YoYoDesign-Yeah3](http://http)
> 
> H: I’ve always thought about an h shape like this. There are two distinct parts. The outer (rim) and inner (catch zone). As you go from the outside of the yoyo you are on the outer there is a step after that step you have the inner. Ex. Yoyofactory Geneses: [http://http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/87/YYF-Genesis-135](http://http)
> 
> Bell: I think about as if you took a bell and put response and a bearing and attached to another one.  
> Ex. One Drop Cascade:[http://http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/715/One-Drop-Cascade](http://http)
> 
> Organic: I’m not sure exactly how to explain this. The best I can do is a picture. Ex. Ilyy St. Eel:[http://http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/161/ILYY-St.-Eel](http://http)
> 
> U: Pretty self explanatory. If you look at the yoyo while put together the top half of the shape will make a u.  
> Ex. Yoyojam Titan 3: [http://http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/803/YYJ-Titan-3](http://http)
> 
> Imperial/Modified: Used for looping. Small catch zone. The exact opposite of organic. Ex. Yoyojam Unleashed:[http://http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/356/YYJ-Unleashed](http://http)

All your links are belong to trash. They’re broken.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/14 "2013-07-07T09:25:04Z")

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> [@DrAwesome](#):
>
> Ok I’ve always thought that there are 6 categories:
> 
> V: In this category there is a typically slope straight to the response and bearing seat. This can be curved or straight. In some cases it has two steps like the Rayoyo Chupacabra. The C3yoyodesign Yeah3 ha a “Double V”. In which there are 2 v shapes in one.  
> Ex.[http://http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/577/C3YoYoDesign-Yeah3](http://http)
> 
> H: I’ve always thought about an h shape like this. There are two distinct parts. The outer (rim) and inner (catch zone). As you go from the outside of the yoyo you are on the outer there is a step after that step you have the inner. Ex. Yoyofactory Geneses: [http://http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/87/YYF-Genesis-135](http://http)
> 
> Bell: I think about as if you took a bell and put response and a bearing and attached to another one.  
> Ex. One Drop Cascade:[http://http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/715/One-Drop-Cascade](http://http)
> 
> Organic: I’m not sure exactly how to explain this. The best I can do is a picture. Ex. Ilyy St. Eel:[http://http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/161/ILYY-St.-Eel](http://http)
> 
> U: Pretty self explanatory. If you look at the yoyo while put together the top half of the shape will make a u.  
> Ex. Yoyojam Titan 3: [http://http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/803/YYJ-Titan-3](http://http)
> 
> Imperial/Modified: Used for looping. Small catch zone. The exact opposite of organic. Ex. Yoyojam Unleashed:[http://http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/356/YYJ-Unleashed](http://http)

The links are broken, why are there two http:// per link? Thats the reason!

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/15 "2013-07-07T09:33:25Z")

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> [@YoYoJordan](#):
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> H with a nice curve from the rims.  
> Dat El Ranchero, always loved their engravings!

Wow! So many of you are up late/early. Keeping me company 😃

Thanks DrAwesome…fix those links for us so we can have a look. Thanks for pointing it out ASL. Also, I like your written descriptions of the 6 types DrAwesome… I was focusing on wings, but no need to leave out the modified/loopers in this game. I guessed “H” for the Ranchero due to the lip…even though the lip is so high. I’m improving!

4th throw:

[http://i.imgur.com/SfmSTvW.jpg](http://imgur.com/SfmSTvW)

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/16 "2013-07-07T09:40:34Z")

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> [@TotalArtist](#):
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> > [@YoYoJordan](#):
> >
> > H with a nice curve from the rims.  
> > Dat El Ranchero, always loved their engravings!
> 
> Wow! So many of you are up late/early. Keeping me company 😃

I’m in England right now, keep forgetting the 5 hour difference 😛

As for the 4th throw, I’d say that it’s a modified butterfly/H shape

EDIT:

We can’t forget inner cut shapes, like the Cliff and Glacier Express. CLYW refers to their shape as I-beam or “Train track” shapes.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/17 "2013-07-07T09:48:24Z")

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> [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](#):
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> > [@TotalArtist](#):
> >
> > > [@YoYoJordan](#):
> > >
> > > H with a nice curve from the rims.  
> > > Dat El Ranchero, always loved their engravings!
> > 
> > Wow! So many of you are up late/early. Keeping me company 😃
> 
> I’m in England right now, keep forgetting the 5 hour difference 😛
> 
> As for the 4th throw, I’d say that it’s a modified butterfly/H shape

Awesome!! Take lots of pics while there. We wanna see! The internet is so cool cause you never lose touch on long trips like that. Wishing you a safe return. I guessed H on that because of the lip, but almost thought V because the rounded rims give it a softer look. The 4th was an Echo. Time to mix things up a bit:

5th Throw:

[http://i.imgur.com/7LGs0MZ.jpg](http://imgur.com/7LGs0MZ)

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/18 "2013-07-07T11:01:39Z")

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> [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](#):
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> > [@TotalArtist](#):
> >
> > > [@YoYoJordan](#):
> > >
> > > H with a nice curve from the rims.  
> > > Dat El Ranchero, always loved their engravings!
> > 
> > Wow! So many of you are up late/early. Keeping me company 😃
> 
> I’m in England right now, keep forgetting the 5 hour difference 😛

neat! what are you doing in england? just a vacation?

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/19 "2013-07-07T11:02:06Z")

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> [@TotalArtist](#):
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> > [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](#):
> >
> > > [@TotalArtist](#):
> > >
> > > > [@YoYoJordan](#):
> > > >
> > > > H with a nice curve from the rims.  
> > > > Dat El Ranchero, always loved their engravings!
> > > 
> > > Wow! So many of you are up late/early. Keeping me company 😃
> > 
> > I’m in England right now, keep forgetting the 5 hour difference 😛
> > 
> > As for the 4th throw, I’d say that it’s a modified butterfly/H shape
> 
> Awesome!! Take lots of pics while there. We wanna see! The internet is so cool cause you never lose touch on long trips like that. Wishing you a safe return. I guessed H on that because of the lip, but almost thought V because the rounded rims give it a softer look. The 4th was an Echo. Time to mix things up a bit:
> 
> 5th Throw:
> 
> [http://i.imgur.com/7LGs0MZ.jpg](http://imgur.com/7LGs0MZ)

this is a u/v shape.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-shape-game/56159/20 "2013-07-07T11:04:05Z")

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Hmmm…but would you call it a bell shape like the Cascade? Tell my why or why not. Curious. :-\ Is a bell just a certain type of H/V ?

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