# The Rose Game

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512>\
**Category:** Unrelated Discussion\
**Created:** [July 4, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512 "2014-07-04T01:49:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/1 "2014-07-04T01:49:45Z")

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A bunch of my Boy Scout friends and I play this with newcomers. You basically have to figure out if something’s a rose or not. Here’s an example:

If a rose is a rose, is it a rose? (Correct answer is no).

Listen, if that’s not a rose, and a rose is a rose, is a rose a rose? Yes it is.

Have fun driving yourselves crazy trying to figure out what makes it a rose. Anything could be an example.

(Is my yoyo a rose? No).

Try it 😛

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**Author:** ![Logi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/logi/32/7932_2.png) [@Logi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Logi)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/2 "2014-07-04T01:56:11Z")

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It ain’t not not not not not is not not not a rose, is it not not not not?

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**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/3 "2014-07-04T02:15:03Z")

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> [@Logi](#):
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> It ain’t not not not not not is not not not a rose, is it not not not not (a rose)?

Nope, it’s not a rose.

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**Author:** ![Steven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/steven/32/1502_2.png) [@Steven](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Steven)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/4 "2014-07-04T02:46:23Z")

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> [@someone](#):
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> A bunch of my Boy Scout friends and I play this with newcomers. You basically have to figure out if something’s a rose or not. Here’s an example:
> 
> If a rose is a rose, is it a rose? (Correct answer is no).
> 
> Listen, if that’s not a rose, and a rose is a rose, is a rose a rose? Yes it is.
> 
> Have fun driving yourselves crazy trying to figure out what makes it a rose. Anything could be an example.
> 
> (Is my yoyo a rose? No).
> 
> Try it 😛

Think I got it!

Always starts out No and then it changes back and forth.

Ex. If a rose is a rose, and a rose is a rose which is a rose, is a rose a rose rose? Answer:(I think) Yes.

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**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/5 "2014-07-04T02:52:51Z")

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> [@LordCanti](#):
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> Think I got it!
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> Always starts out No and then it changes back and forth.
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> Ex. If a rose is a rose, and a rose is a rose which is a rose, is a rose a rose rose? Answer:(I think) Yes.

Nope, it’s not a rose.

Seriously, listen closely: If my yoyo is a rose, is my yoyo a rose? (Correct answer is yes).

And I’m not trolling, there is a way to tell. :wink:

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**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/6 "2014-07-04T03:12:24Z")

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Lol if you say  
if a rose (a bunch of pointless jargon)… is a rose (repeat jargon)? Yes. If you never said anything in the if part then nothing can be assumed. Am I right?

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**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/7 "2014-07-04T03:21:07Z")

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> [@stuarttw](#):
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> Lol if you say  
> if a rose (a bunch of pointless jargon)… is a rose (repeat jargon)? Yes. If you never said anything in the if part then nothing can be assumed. Am I right?

Nope :wink:

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**Author:** ![naoki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/naoki/32/843_2.png) [@naoki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/naoki)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/8 "2014-07-04T03:25:56Z")

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This game is out of my poor comprehension abilities :-\

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**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/9 "2014-07-04T03:29:31Z")

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> [@naoki](#):
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> This game is out of my poor comprehension abilities :-\

It’s extremely simple if you know what to look for. ;D

If you guys figure it out, don’t tell, at least for now. :wink:

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/10 "2014-07-04T03:36:43Z")

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I quit

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**Author:** ![Logi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/logi/32/7932_2.png) [@Logi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Logi)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/11 "2014-07-04T03:48:53Z")

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So if my yoyo is not not a rose, but it’s not not not a rose, but it’s still a rose, is not not a rose that is not?

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**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/12 "2014-07-04T04:05:01Z")

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> [@Logi](#):
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> So if my yoyo is not not a rose, but it’s not not not a rose, but it’s still a rose, is not not a rose that is not?

It’s not a rose.

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**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/13 "2014-07-04T13:17:52Z")

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Ask a question someone, anyone!

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**Author:** ![modman10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/modman10/32/874_2.png) [@modman10](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/modman10)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/14 "2014-07-04T14:52:54Z")

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Lol, I know what it is Noah…

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**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/15 "2014-07-04T15:42:01Z")

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> [@someone](#):
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> If a rose is a rose, is it a rose? (Correct answer is no).

because it is not a rose. A rose may be a rose, but it is not a rose.

> [@someone](#):
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> Listen, if that’s not a rose, and a rose is a rose, is a rose a rose? Yes it is.

a rose is a rose because a rose is a rose.

how about this:  
It is always that, that is always a rose, and a rose is always that; however, that is not always it.

1. Is it a rose?
2. Is that a rose?
3. Is a rose it?

I think I know the answers.

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**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/16 "2014-07-04T15:47:39Z")

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Is a rose a rose? Yes

Is a yoyo a rose? No

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**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/17 "2014-07-04T17:29:25Z")

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So far all those answers were wrong, @Philip and Yoyo.

Really guys lol, listen closely: If that kendama is a rose, and this thread is a rose, is my yoyo a rose? (Correct answer is yes).

I’ll tell you guys the trick in a day or 2.

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**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/18 "2014-07-04T17:44:54Z")

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Can you ask a question instead of making us ask ourselves questions?

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**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/19 "2014-07-04T17:51:36Z")

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If a yoyo is a rose, is it a rose? No

If a yoyo is a rose, is a rose a rose? Yes it is

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**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-rose-game/67512/20 "2014-07-04T18:02:59Z")

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> [@Yoyo](#):
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> If a yoyo is a rose, is it a rose? No
> 
> If a yoyo is a rose, is a rose a rose? Yes it is

Nope 😃

What about this one: If a yoyo is not a rose, then is it a rose? No

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