# The new plastic Gentry Stein Signature Mystery **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [December 1, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046 "2014-12-01T00:37:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/41 "2014-12-02T20:00:33Z")
> [@GarrettMfnMoody](#): > > Btw, are “that’s what she said” jokes inappropriate for the fourms? Lolol ^ ^ You have a sick mind 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Zareli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b3f665/32.png) [@Zareli](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zareli)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/42 "2014-12-02T21:35:04Z")
> [@GarrettMfnMoody](#): > > What do you mean stuck? Like it won’t turn open ? > If so I’ve had this problem with plastic throws before. You should be fine to give it a good push, but if it still does not budge play with it for a few days then try to open it. Playing with it will loosen it up. I won’t push it 'till I confirm it can actually be taken apart, its like a prototype or something, maybe it isn’t meant to be opened at all. ---
**Author:** ![mournerslament](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mournerslament/32/1327_2.png) [@mournerslament](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mournerslament)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/43 "2014-12-02T21:44:27Z")
> [@Zareli](#): > > I won’t push it 'till I confirm it can actually be taken apart, its like a prototype or something, maybe it isn’t meant to be opened at all. You can open them just fine, just had to give it a good crank. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/c/4/5c41d9593da5cc9b370a6ae5e1035df9a6cf62d2.png) ---
**Author:** ![Check04](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Check04](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Check04)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/44 "2014-12-02T22:24:36Z")
I absolutely love this throw, my wrist however does not. Anyone else having a problem with kickback with it? It usually plays really nice just every now and then I get a wrist breaker throw. ---
**Author:** ![MikeEff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e8cbc/32.png) [@MikeEff](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MikeEff)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/45 "2014-12-02T23:00:54Z")
INDESTRUCT-YO!! This thing is pretty indestructible. I’ve been playing it all day today (no wrist problems, btw) and I’ve slammed it into almost everything in my classroom. I hit my desk, my shelving unit, and I just power slammed it right into the tile floor (Yeah, maybe I need more practice). But, there’s not a mark on 'er!! I’m serious, not a single mark, scratch or anything. I know I baby my yoyos, but this thing may not require that. Yay! Now I can throw outside without worry! ;D ---
**Author:** ![Zareli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b3f665/32.png) [@Zareli](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zareli)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/46 "2014-12-02T23:08:17Z")
> [@mournerslament](#): > > You can open them just fine, just had to give it a good crank. Nice to know they’re not using death grip spacers anymore 😛 Gonna deshield/lube pretty soon then. ---
**Author:** ![GoCrazyForYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gocrazyforyoyo/32/7941_2.png) [@GoCrazyForYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GoCrazyForYoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/47 "2014-12-02T23:09:20Z")
My wrist loves it. ---
**Author:** ![BokehJeremy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bokehjeremy/32/1474_2.png) [@BokehJeremy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BokehJeremy)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/48 "2014-12-03T05:41:27Z")
Best thing about it is the Axle. It has a separate axle. Smoooth ---
**Author:** ![GarrettMfnMoody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5e9695/32.png) [@GarrettMfnMoody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GarrettMfnMoody)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/49 "2014-12-03T19:07:17Z")
> [@BokehJeremy](#): > > Best thing about it is the Axle. It has a separate axle. Smoooth Separate axle? As in the axle is not attached to the yoyo? If that’s what you are saying that is the case with just about all newer yoyos ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/50 "2014-12-03T19:18:13Z")
> [@Check04](#): > > I absolutely love this throw, my wrist however does not. Anyone else having a problem with kickback with it? It usually plays really nice just every now and then I get a wrist breaker throw. Please define what you mean by “kickback”. Traditionally kickback, when applied to yoyos implies that when you attempt to throw it straight down the yoyo tends to swing back a bit beyond the vertical. Particularly noticeable in a front throw sleeper. A large gap yoyo will exhibit this behavior. I’ve never found that to be an issue that stresses any part of the body. ---
**Author:** ![nolangherity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d6d6ee/32.png) [@nolangherity](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nolangherity)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/51 "2014-12-03T20:13:00Z")
> [@GarrettMfnMoody](#): > > Separate axle? > As in the axle is not attached to the yoyo? > If that’s what you are saying that is the case with just about all newer yoyos well all the COOL plastics have fixed axles. > [@jhb8426](#): > > Please define what you mean by “kickback”. i have a feeling he means the return top is returning to his hand before he wants the return top to return. ---
**Author:** ![GarrettMfnMoody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5e9695/32.png) [@GarrettMfnMoody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GarrettMfnMoody)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/52 "2014-12-03T20:23:19Z")
i have a feeling he means the return top is returning to his hand before he wants the return top to return. [/quote] If he was playing with a responsive yoyo this could be the case, but considering its un-responsive i would have to assume it is not. i took it as his binds are real tight and comming back hard to his hand. which could be on the account of fresh response pads? ---
**Author:** ![Check04](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Check04](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Check04)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/53 "2014-12-04T02:06:13Z")
It’s not a returning issue, I normally play unresponsive. What I mean by kickback is instead of the string kind of gripping the pads all the way down on the throw it kind of… for a lack of a better word “slips” about 1/2 - 2/3 the way down causing it to jerk to the end of the string rather than smoothly rolling down, which causes a good amount of stress on my throw arm wrist. It very well could be that I’m binding it a little too loosely, but I don’t have this problem with my other throws. ---
**Author:** ![FullthrottleFRS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fullthrottlefrs/32/1551_2.png) [@FullthrottleFRS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FullthrottleFRS)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/54 "2014-12-04T02:55:10Z")
> [@Check04](#): > > It’s not a returning issue, I normally play unresponsive. What I mean by kickback is instead of the string kind of gripping the pads all the way down on the throw it kind of… for a lack of a better word “slips” about 1/2 - 2/3 the way down causing it to jerk to the end of the string rather than smoothly rolling down, which causes a good amount of stress on my throw arm wrist. It very well could be that I’m binding it a little too loosely, but I don’t have this problem with my other throws. The Regen has a fairly wide gap, which could be larger than your other throws that you’re used to, and could be the cause of your lose binds. Try being extra deliberate in feeding the string in properly. I’ve noticed that my binds can be loose with it if it’s not spinning hard still, so I just make sure that I’m deliberate about the bind. ---
**Author:** ![Gambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gambit/32/1358_2.png) [@Gambit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gambit)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/55 "2014-12-04T10:21:33Z")
> [@Check04](#): > > It’s not a returning issue, I normally play unresponsive. What I mean by kickback is instead of the string kind of gripping the pads all the way down on the throw it kind of… for a lack of a better word “slips” about 1/2 - 2/3 the way down causing it to jerk to the end of the string rather than smoothly rolling down, which causes a good amount of stress on my throw arm wrist. It very well could be that I’m binding it a little too loosely, but I don’t have this problem with my other throws. I’ve experienced this myself on my wider-gapped throws, especially when the response has worn a bit. It’s obviously especially noticable because of the heavier weight of the Regen as well which takes it’s toll on the joints a bit more. After reading your post I went and threw a bunch of my throws and found that the worst culprit I had was my 7075 Supernova, which also happens to be the one that is the slippiest on binds (I’ve been meaning to get round to changing the pads). I would watch your binds to try and get them tighter, but it may not help. I spent a fair bit of time with my Supernova last night experimenting with binds to see if I could remedy the situation, but in the end nothing solved the problem completely. :-\ If it continues to be an issue it may be worth replacing your response pads with something a bit grippier such as Onedrop’s Flow Groove 19mm or YYF’s Natural pads. ---
**Author:** ![oops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/oops/32/683976_2.png) [@oops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/oops)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/56 "2014-12-04T10:38:36Z")
Most YYFs have a substantially wider gap (fractions of a millimeter make a big difference) than some other companies like CLYW and OD, thicker string or new/different response might help. ---
**Author:** ![GarrettMfnMoody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5e9695/32.png) [@GarrettMfnMoody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GarrettMfnMoody)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046/57 "2014-12-04T19:49:05Z")
> [@oops](#): > > Most YYFs have a substantially wider gap (fractions of a millimeter make a big difference) than some other companies like CLYW and OD, thicker string or new/different response might help. Correct, thicker strings helps %100, when my responce pads are wore out I always break out the type 12s “fatties” [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-new-plastic-gentry-stein-signature-mystery/71046.md?page=2)