# The most objective tier-list for the most subjective hobby from one of the biggest organic lovers out there **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\ **Created:** [May 10, 2023, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214 "2023-05-10T08:29:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DapperWooona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dapperwooona/32/122728_2.png) [@DapperWooona](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DapperWooona)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/1 "2023-05-10T08:29:56Z")
I have gone through hundreds of yoyos over the 15 years I’ve been throwing, and these are by far the best list relative to one another based on a multitude of factors I’ll add as I see fit. The ratings are further divvied by their positioning (higher up = betterer) Mostly sticking to the big American companies, if you want an opinion on something from A-RT, CLYW, OD, YYF, RSO that you don’t see here, ask and I probably got an answer for you 🙂 **S+** _Will change the way you view throws, genre definers. Something that feels special everytime you play it, always puts a smile on your face_ Canvas Life 000 54SE Summit ti888 Small Bearing 888 Ari and it’s little brother the Khuno Gravity Draupnir Small bearing tiramisu **S** _Some of the best in their class. The go-to’s_ Triptych Noah Banshee SS Chopstick Gorilla Martian Aster Hinemosu Grail/B7 low wall 888 Glacier Express MCMO/MC FHZ w/ Buzzon Mod Stainless 888 7075 Scout Ronin Batsquatch Diorama **A** _Great picks in their respective categories. Great EDC equivalents to the above._ Collapsar Sasquatch Scout Akita Banshee Cloudberry Stormberry Amplifier Kappa Exia TiShee The End pt. 2 Legendary 888 Project Saber Speedaholic GBP Porycrash Grind Machine 2 TiTriton OG Pyro Chik! Karamaiju Nitro/Intro Pomelo RSO Bapezilla and it’s SE version Inhaler Dale D7 Anglam Panorama Trident **B** _Nothing too special, not much to hate either_ 000BTM Chief Wooly Marmot 2 Triton Radix Thorn 7 Summits Yelets Parlay 420/420L Cliff G5+ Wooly Markmont Grind Monster MgSka Milk Metal Cream Slam Dunk Beanie PWRhouse Legendary Terrarian Peak 2 Dove Plastic 000 Plastic Fulvia **C** _Better choices available for cheaper, or overhyped. Usually sits in the case cuz you have better throws to play with_ 7075 Chief Avalanche Wooly Marmot 1 Luchador G5 MSG Terrarian Avante Garde 1/2 Deduction Stock FHZ HSPIN x OXY H2O Jake Bullock’s yoyos save for the slam dunk OG Bapezilla Majesty Sudo Metal Freehand Zero Metal Freehand One YweTi SE FAST 201 GZR Cascade Dark Magic 2 OG Ywet The American New Sasquatch Sistine Spellbound Alleycat **D** _Upsetting performance. Throws you wish were better, have been mad irrelevant by newer releases, with quirks that spoil it for you_ OG Peak Creep 66% 888 D is for DV888 Highwall 888 OG Yeti OG Shutter Cyclotron Mighty Flea Raider Brain Powdercoated 420 **F** _Would turn a newcomer off throwing, would be better off lost and forgotten. Makes you frown when you think about them_ The free yoyo from that centrifuge company Overthrow ---
**Author:** ![yoyo7](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo7/32/140308_2.png) [@yoyo7](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo7)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/2 "2023-05-10T08:33:02Z")
Cool list. Have never really considered how good the life is… but I have 3 of them. So your list must be accurate 😅 ---
**Author:** ![DapperWooona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dapperwooona/32/122728_2.png) [@DapperWooona](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DapperWooona)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/3 "2023-05-10T08:43:01Z")
It really is the definitive organic to me, it’s so well behaved for an organic while still feeling unique, a lip for irg’s, not being too hollow feeling like some are, not too performance oriented like the kappa so you can still bop around, perfect regens and rejects every time, the schmoove with the raised pads for great suicides and pulling out wrapped strings/dropped triangles easy without a tool, snags rarely and you can save it from a snag when it’s coming. It always inspires me to do something new when I play it, so it (nearly) tops my list 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/4 "2023-05-10T11:09:20Z")
Fun list ---
**Author:** ![DapperWooona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dapperwooona/32/122728_2.png) [@DapperWooona](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DapperWooona)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/5 "2023-05-10T11:10:24Z")
Bet one from you would be funner still ---
**Author:** ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/6 "2023-05-10T11:22:37Z")
I think I am going to do one with the discord server on my models. I don’t think I can’t do one with others unfortunately. You know what mamma said ---
**Author:** ![L8rdays](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/l8rdays/32/210942_2.png) [@L8rdays](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/L8rdays)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/7 "2023-05-10T11:54:36Z")
Nice list. I know its for oganics but if the OG shutter is on the list where would the butter fall? ---
**Author:** ![safetypin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/safetypin/32/128453_2.png) [@safetypin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/safetypin)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/8 "2023-05-10T13:27:32Z")
Can you go into a bit more detail about why 7 Summits is so much lower than the Summit? ---
**Author:** ![GTDropKnot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gtdropknot/32/212400_2.png) [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/9 "2023-05-10T13:31:29Z")
Why did you decide the Diorama gets ranked at S and Panorama at A? Just curious! ---
**Author:** ![Jblock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jblock/32/212952_2.png) [@Jblock](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jblock)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/10 "2023-05-10T13:59:17Z")
No General Yo? Where my Hatrick peeps at? Also - snowberry and motion harmonic are fabulous. ---
**Author:** ![fradiger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fradiger/32/66850_2.png) [@fradiger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fradiger)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/11 "2023-05-10T14:16:07Z")
Shoutout to the Chik!, this throw gets like zero attention nowadays and still holds up beautifully. Interesting to see the al6 summit in S+ while the seven summit rots away in B tier. Seeing the Sudo in C tier hurts, especially with the parlay in A tier, I feel like those two are meant to go together. What’s your setup for the martian? I’ve had one for a while but I haven’t fallen in love with it yet , and I find myself generally agreeing with the rest of your tiers, so maybe you know something I don’t… ---
**Author:** ![DapperWooona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dapperwooona/32/122728_2.png) [@DapperWooona](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DapperWooona)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/12 "2023-05-10T16:18:15Z")
@G2_Jake Ill never tell :wink: @L8rdays what the heck is that, Duncan Butterfly? I would put an XT at B since its very capable for a responsive. Also it’s not just for organics! I’m just saying my case is filled with more and more organics lately 🙂 @safetypin it has to do with why I think GZR cascade aint so great, back when OD would just re release models in 7075 without changing the design. Felt a lot clunkier when the summit was already teetering that edge beautifully @GTDropKnot because unlike the above point, diorama managed to put a smidge more centerweight and make it feel a little more even throughout, which I really liked. They’re both good, but imo diorama is gooderer @Jblock a majesty is in there! @fradiger Chik was so good! Im surprised it never got a rerelease, I’m assuming its because terrarian took its place. I remember spending ages looking for a sudo when I got one, and being way more impressed with the diorama/panorama in terms of highwalls. I don’t like it for the same reason I don’t like the creep, just very unstable imo. Parlay is much better distributed, nice dense and full of power. The martian I run brass mm sidefx! Although it shines a lot with something that keeps weight to the rims as opposed the center. ---
**Author:** ![L8rdays](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/l8rdays/32/210942_2.png) [@L8rdays](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/L8rdays)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/14 "2023-05-10T16:21:35Z")
It’s a Bi-Metal Shutter, affectionately known as Butter ---
**Author:** ![safetypin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/safetypin/32/128453_2.png) [@safetypin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/safetypin)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/15 "2023-05-10T16:34:06Z")
I see, so it’s different than what they did with the Diorama, MCMO, LT? These newer “boosted” 7075 versions are actually adjusted in the CAD. That’s good to know; I put the seven summits on my wish list, because I’ve really liked 7075 ODs, but I’ve only played with the newer ones. ---
**Author:** ![DapperWooona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dapperwooona/32/122728_2.png) [@DapperWooona](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DapperWooona)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/16 "2023-05-10T16:34:20Z")
No clue, I’ve heard the shutter Evo and others were good, but the og I’ve used just feels so clunky. The American had that hefty feeling but with a better distribution. ---
**Author:** ![DapperWooona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dapperwooona/32/122728_2.png) [@DapperWooona](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DapperWooona)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/17 "2023-05-10T16:39:36Z")
You’re better off with a legendary terrarian. It’s still good, but imo a regular summit feels way better with is comparative float. I’m a big fan of float yet powerrrrrr which is why I like the life and mcmo over their more evenly distributed counterparts. I think the 7 summit is the last of the same cad material swap of the gzr fame, or the first to be redistributed, but either way I would much rather have a summit with a heavier sideeffect than a 7 summit. The concept of you can always add more, but you can’t take away once you’ve added too much. ---
**Author:** ![Yo\_2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yo_2/32/219839_2.png) [@Yo\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yo_2)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/18 "2023-05-10T17:00:35Z")
Fun list. I’m curious where you would put some of the following: Evil Yo Gelada (og) Dietz Yelets Oh, and just for fun…the Lesula. ---
**Author:** ![Ed-C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ed-c/32/132116_2.png) [@Ed-C](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ed-C)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/19 "2023-05-10T17:20:25Z")
Missing the Koi too. ---
**Author:** ![DapperWooona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dapperwooona/32/122728_2.png) [@DapperWooona](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DapperWooona)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/20 "2023-05-10T18:34:33Z")
Really need to try MFD, always avoided em as they seemed more gimmicky than players to me, as well as the high entry price point. The yeletes is def a slapper, I’d put it on par with the parlay @Ed-C haven’t tried this ☹ ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214/21 "2023-05-10T19:45:13Z")
Hundreds of yo-yo’s; and this is the list? I guess you did not buy the same hundreds of yo-yo’s that I did. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-most-objective-tier-list-for-the-most-subjective-hobby-from-one-of-the-biggest-organic-lovers-out-there/375214.md?page=2)