# The first non G-squared swirl?

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [October 27, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350 "2018-10-27T22:47:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/44 "2019-04-11T00:02:08Z")

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Yeah, that is super nice😍

He put out one or two runs that used a laser engraved swirl which looked nice. I’d pick one of those up too

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/45 "2019-04-11T00:15:52Z")

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I didn’t care for the laser engraved swirls, those are always gonna be white.

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**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/46 "2019-04-11T00:18:58Z")

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[https://www.instagram.com/yotoyimages/p/8BXr3StsuZ/](https://www.instagram.com/yotoyimages/p/8BXr3StsuZ/)  
[https://www.instagram.com/yotoyimages/p/2CZ7Ugtsub/](https://www.instagram.com/yotoyimages/p/2CZ7Ugtsub/)

SPYY Punchline by Vendetta c. 2011

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**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/47 "2019-04-11T00:30:27Z")

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Oh man that is so nice. And on my favorite yoyo ever made.

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**Author:** ![jasonwongzero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jasonwongzero/32/725_2.png) [@jasonwongzero](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jasonwongzero)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/48 "2019-04-11T00:52:16Z")

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I remember the first time I saw the swirls were the Vendetta ones in the examples provided by David and Ed. I think all those swirls are really beautiful. They’re not overly difficult to execute, however, because swirls (like acid washes) hide ano flaws.

The hardest colorways/styles to anodize are carefully composited and layered stenciling (not post anodize laser engraving) on solid backgrounds because there’s zero room for error.

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**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/49 "2019-04-11T03:52:44Z")

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I tried to do them and they ended up looking like puke 🤮 lol

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**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/50 "2019-04-11T03:56:02Z")

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Vendetta did some really great ano work. I still have a couple of his pieces.

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**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/51 "2019-04-11T04:15:39Z")

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What yoyo is that? Doesn’t look like a Peak like I thought it was.

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**Author:** ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/52 "2019-04-11T10:57:45Z")

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This is what I’ve always tried to get. Thinner, clean, half circle swirls. Only one shop has been able to do it for me. I tried to help GBA learn. Much wasted money and time on that venture.

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/53 "2019-04-11T11:03:21Z")

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I feel the magic can happen again. I BELIEVE ✨

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**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/54 "2019-04-11T11:19:34Z")

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I think that’s a campfire

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**Author:** ![sloegoe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sloegoe/32/804_2.png) [@sloegoe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sloegoe)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/55 "2019-04-11T11:23:12Z")

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The Vendetta Swirls don’t look all that G2 esque, but the One Drop current ones do look way more G2 than the Vendetta, so I think their attempt to mask what they did is sort of coming up short as seen from the pics. At first I didn’t care, then I found out Jake didn’t know about it, then I seen the lame cover up attempt and was a bit upset.

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**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/56 "2019-04-11T11:59:08Z")

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It’s a good thing companies have been so conscientious about citing their sources for design inspiration, but I’m pretty sure what ended up grinding Tom Kuhn Yo-Yo’s to a halt was Tom’s constant bombardment of emails asking for permission to splash anodize.

[https://www.instagram.com/p/xhT\_vCBF4T/](https://www.instagram.com/p/xhT_vCBF4T/)

Yeah no that didn’t happen.  
Just because you see it as your thing, it doesn’t make it YOUR thing. How many times have we seen variations on this same thing. Friction stickers, hubstacks, nipple design, weight rings, profile… there’s no corner of the yo-yo which hasn’t been claimed as intellectual domain - and some cases of specific innovations/patents have merit. But an ano pattern, the original developer of which was not tied to any company and is no longer in yo-yoing? If a fundamental aspect of your brand’s aesthetic design is something which you didn’t develop, then your claim to it is, at most, perceived.

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**Author:** ![jasonwongzero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jasonwongzero/32/725_2.png) [@jasonwongzero](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jasonwongzero)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/57 "2019-04-11T14:00:21Z")

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Since this topic is sort of about ‘colorway originality’, I have a confession.

One of the main reasons I stopped anodizing is because everyone started copying fade splash/Skittles splash. I _think_ I was the first to do them and and I credited Brett Grimes who did it in paint (not ano) for the inspiration.

But one can’t trademark colorways and it’s silly and selfish to think you can restrict others from using and enjoying a color theme. So eventually I got over it. I told my wife I’d like to get back into anodizing some day, maybe within the next year after I settle into my new home. (hopefully moving into our forever home within a month!)

In the meantime, I’ll just share this photo. They are probably my favorite two skittles anodize jobs. I did them for Clyw Chris as a present to Andre. To my knowledge Andre still keeps these two Chiefs. Knowing they were given as gifts makes me happy.

Jason

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 ![DSC00091-XL](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/9/e/09ee4dd58faf14ebbbc90e91965a13b262760b76.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/58 "2019-04-11T14:06:41Z")

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This is one of my favorite colorways of all gimme. Fantastic job!

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**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/59 "2019-04-11T14:56:54Z")

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> [@sloegoe](#):
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> At first I didn’t care, then I found out Jake didn’t know about it, then I seen the lame cover up attempt and was a bit upset.

Source?

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**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/60 "2019-04-11T15:14:37Z")

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> [@jasonwongzero](#):
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> To my knowledge Andre still keeps these two Chiefs. Knowing they were given as gifts makes me happy.

Black Chief still sits on display at @AndreBoulay’s desk. Fantastic looking yo-yo!

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**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/61 "2019-04-11T17:09:54Z")

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Campfire 🙂

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**Author:** ![AndreBoulay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andreboulay/32/69662_2.png) [@AndreBoulay](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AndreBoulay)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/62 "2019-04-12T01:03:02Z")

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Love, love, love this throw. 😊

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/8/f/f8f3c1a578f080f002935f37572bd04122164321.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/6/9/869f727c500270d2f3696ea19f760f9e0c56c81e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/63 "2019-04-12T04:10:34Z")

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So happy to see Jason in any thread 🥰 love his work

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