# The first non G-squared swirl?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [October 27, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350 "2018-10-27T22:47:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/1 "2018-10-27T22:47:13Z")
It’s kind of unfortunate that we have two kinds of nomenclature for “swirls”. On the one hand you have [this kind of swirl](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/totally-new-kind-of-swirl-ano/79585) …
And then on the other hand you have _this_ swirl…
Which to my knowledge only G2 has been able to pull off. Both of these “swirls” are awesome, but the G2 kind is, in my opinion, even cooler because of the way it lines up with the yo-yos spinning motion. And this style of swirl is almost completely unknown outside their brand.
That is, _it was_, until I saw this 2018 lineup of topyo Selenes:
Notice that colorway at the top right. That colorway has never been for sale at YYE, or any of the major known Japanese or European yo-yo stores… but on the chinese vendor sites, it is _technically_ for sale but out of stock.
:thinking:
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### Author:  [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/2 "2018-10-27T22:51:21Z")
That first pattern seems more “oil slick” than “swirl” to me, but oil slick sounds kinda grodie whereas swirl has nice, pleasant, ice cream connotations.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/3 "2018-10-27T22:51:50Z")
If you visit the linked topic in the first post, you can see more examples.
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### Author:  [@Dust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dust)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/4 "2018-10-27T23:09:05Z")
imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. You can only be original for sol long before others attempt the same, eventully, someone will get close. This looks pretty close, and hopefully more artists crack the swirl secret technique so we can have a chance at getting something that makes us all drool. 😃
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### Author:  [@NoT\_ATHROWER](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NoT_ATHROWER)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/5 "2018-11-20T22:15:37Z")
It was available at worlds for the selene colorway. There was some speculation about them copying G squared.
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### Author:  [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/6 "2018-11-20T22:42:47Z")
I think a few other companies have done that G2 signature swirl in the past. I remember Square Wheels had one with a swirl - Royale or rockefeller or one of those a while ago…
That Selene looks great though!
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/7 "2019-01-18T09:15:59Z")
Oh snizzedy snap, the TopYo Selene is back, and for +$20 over a solid you can get… _swirls!_
That’s kind of a big jump considering the base model solid is like $35.
Plus some pretty cool splashes for +$10, too, and a dip looking thing… really interesting.
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### Author:  [@skklexie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skklexie)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/8 "2019-01-18T09:27:19Z")
they gotta try harder if they wanna compete with G2. unfortunately those look like clumsy brushstrokes instead of swirls to me.
G2 also has a great fan-base not because of the swirls, but the time and effort jake puts into his videos, discord & social media accounts on a daily basis is something i respect very much. good luck Topyo, hope your ano skills get to the levels of G2
PS: i am pretty damn sure jake’s gonna bring even more innovation and try to stay ahead. time will unravel the mysteries he’s got planned
EDIT: competition is healthy
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/9 "2019-01-18T09:37:22Z")
Note that I didn’t say it was _better_, but the complete lack of swirls from ANY yo-yo company (until now?) is … rather striking.
You can see from the +$20 on a $35 yo-yo that this is a fairly expensive, and thus probably complex, technique. Maybe that explains why we haven’t seen it more?
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### Author:  [@skklexie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skklexie)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/10 "2019-01-18T09:45:39Z")
oh yeah for sure dude, i wasn’t trying to challenge you! it took me many edits for me to try and articulate what i was feeling about their swirls. i just wanted to participate in a discussion and not an argument; hope no offense was taken!
since im already typing this out, i feel like their attempt at the rainicorn swirl from last year’s batch produced nicer and clearly-defined swirls. but the new batch didnt have the finesse.
thanks for reading!
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/11 "2019-01-18T09:57:01Z")
I’m curious, can you point to any other yo-yo company that’s _ever_ done swirls? I can’t find any images of the Square Wheels swirl that @YoYoExpertGarrett alluded to…
oh wait LOL! Look what I found on a certain forum…
> [@The Square Wheels YoYo Company Rockefeller - A Review](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-square-wheels-yoyo-company-rockefeller-a-review/52794):
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> I’ve been meaning to write a small review for this yoyo for a while now; The guys over at Square Wheels ran a promotion/giveaway a few weeks back, and I was lucky enough to win this Rockefeller. I finally decided to sit down tonight and write something up, so without further ado: The Square Wheels Yo-Yo Company: The Rockefeller [image] Specs Diameter: 55mm Width: 45mm Weight: 66g Bearing: C-Size OD 10 Ball Response: Square Wheels Pad [image] First Impressions/Construction The Rockefelle…
I hesitate to call that a true swirl though?
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### Author:  [@skklexie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skklexie)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/12 "2019-01-18T09:58:47Z")
nope, sorry! i only got back in the hobby last year, and the swirls i own are dated back to 2017 at the earliest.
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### Author:  [@HipposLoveCereal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HipposLoveCereal)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/13 "2019-01-18T12:51:27Z")
Wow I never thought I’d see one of my old posts quoted. First time coming back to the forums in a while, but I thought I’d drop in and share a pic of my square wheels REX that came out not too long after, I think it definitely shows off their swirl ano better:
[ ](https://imgur.com/9PF4uCU)
This came out in 2013, and is a very unique yoyo- it’s one of the ones I kept when I sold off a huge portion of my collection, and it will probably never leave it.
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### Author:  [@anon19434144](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon19434144)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/14 "2019-01-18T13:32:35Z")
 I want something like this on a yoyo…
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/15 "2019-01-18T20:14:17Z")
Would need to be hydro-dip or painted Higby style.
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### Author:  [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/19 "2019-01-18T20:21:41Z")
I dunno, this is like debating which kind of mud tastes better, crunchy or smooth… 😝
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/20 "2019-01-18T20:25:38Z")
Get outta here with your love for boring vanilla solids :wink:
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### Author:  [@anon19434144](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon19434144)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/21 "2019-01-18T20:52:40Z")
You have the yoyo with the really intricate line work that I thought was screen printed on or something. It did not look like it was painted or drawn on. It was white line work a on purplish or marroonish body.
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### Author:  [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/22 "2019-01-18T21:21:31Z")
Yeah the Square Wheels Bush marks are what I tried to evolve into what is known as the G2 swirl today. I think you can see the major differences.
Competition is healthy but it’s better when a company evolves it to be something new instead of directly trying to copy someone - Which top yo is known for.
The swirl is not a secret sauce to sell yo-yos. It’s just one part of my recipe
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2019, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-first-non-g-squared-swirl/294350/23 "2019-01-20T05:48:49Z")
> [@G2\_Jake](#):
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> Yeah the Square Wheels Bush marks are what I tried to evolve into what is known as the G2 swirl today. I think you can see the major differences.
Found some pics [in the b/s/t!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/black-and-blue-swirl-sw-royale-set-sail-proto-50-shipped-takes-both-and-you-get-to-pick-a-free-yoyo-from-the-last-pic/83772)
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