# The Ask G2 Jake Thread

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638
**Category:** Manufacturer Official News
**Created:** [June 26, 2013, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638 "2013-06-26T15:20:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2013, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/121 "2013-07-12T10:46:19Z")

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> [@felipe](#):
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> What is your design process for making yoyos? Do you already have target characteristics before you start that you try to achieve, or do you just go wild with the design and see what it leads you?

A little bit of both. Usually I have an idea of how I want a yoyo to play, and a basic shape. Sketching them helps me decide where I go with it, slight angle changes and such. Eventually I get a sketch I want and send the sketch with measurements to my friend/team member Drew. Drew then draws the sketch in CAD. If I’m happy with it we move on to machining.

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### Author: ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/122 "2013-07-12T13:45:28Z")

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> [@felipe](#):
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> How many man hours does it take to design a yoyo? Are there simulation tools that you can test the yoyo in before a prototype is made? And how many different prototypes do you usually make before getting to the end product?

Really can’t count the hours. A lot.

No simulation tools, if we think the cad will work we have a proto made.

Usually a small adjustment is needed after the first proto. It just depends sometimes it comes out perfect first try like the albatross.

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### Author: ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/123 "2013-07-12T14:00:02Z")

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Is Brett still on the team even tho he retired from public yoyo stuff?

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### Author: ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/124 "2013-07-12T14:11:39Z")

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> [@Bcmaddog](#):
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> Is Brett still on the team even tho he retired from public yoyo stuff?

No. Brett hasn’t had any association with G2 since early in the year.

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### Author: ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/125 "2013-07-12T14:16:35Z")

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> [@felipe](#):
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> Do you only design the profile/CAD of the yoyo, or do you also have to deal with the machining side, optimization of the milling process and whatnot?

Design the cad, then the machine shop takes over. I currently deal with two shops OD and one a friend works as.

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### Author: ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/126 "2013-07-12T14:43:05Z")

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> [@felipe](#):
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> There seem to be a lot of design my own yoyo in this forum, how do you feel about that? Do you think it helps the industry, hinders it or is it irrelevant?

I like to watch some of them. Some people have good ideas I like to see them go through with it.

Others don’t really know what they are getting into and it’s a little frustrating that they think its so easy.

Also making a small run is a lot easier than trying to make a run of a hundred or more.

I don’t think it hinders the industry. It’s a hobby, it’s part of what keeps it fun is the home brew stuff. That should also help push companies to make their products even better.

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### Author: ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2013, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/127 "2013-07-12T16:36:36Z")

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> [@felipe](#):
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> How did you start G2 and making yoyos? Is it a fulltime business yet?
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> When can I expect a titanium G2?

The start up is a long story. I saved up enough money and decided to go after it with a friend.

Not a full time business and that isn’t in the plans.

Maybe 2014

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### Author: ![bassthumb32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@bassthumb32](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bassthumb32)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2013, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/128 "2013-07-13T01:08:57Z")

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I think it’s great that you are so active on the forum. I hadn’t planned on buying any of your throws initially but seeing this shows me that you really care. Something that isn’t found in many businesses. Kudos to you!

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### Author: ![Yoyo\_Kangaroo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e95f7d/32.png) [@Yoyo\_Kangaroo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo_Kangaroo)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/129 "2013-07-13T14:28:54Z")

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Why are only 6061 and 7075 alloys used in aluminum yoyos? Aren’t there other alloys? Is it impossible to anodize other alloys?

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### Author: ![aznnboyaZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aznnboyaz/32/651830_2.png) [@aznnboyaZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznnboyaZ)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/130 "2013-07-13T16:12:41Z")

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> [@Yoyo\_Kangaroo](#):
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> Why are only 6061 and 7075 alloys used in aluminum yoyos? Aren’t there other alloys? Is it impossible to anodize other alloys?

ILYY yoyos are mainly 6082  
It’s just 6061 is more common.  
Ditto 7075  
6082 is less dense than 6061.

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### Author: ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/131 "2013-07-13T16:20:22Z")

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> [@aznnboyaZ](#):
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> > [@Yoyo\_Kangaroo](#):
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> > Why are only 6061 and 7075 alloys used in aluminum yoyos? Aren’t there other alloys? Is it impossible to anodize other alloys?
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> 6082 is less dense than 6061.

And you can tell too, ILYY always feels super floaty to me

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### Author: ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/132 "2013-07-13T16:37:47Z")

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> [@Yoyo\_Kangaroo](#):
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> Why are only 6061 and 7075 alloys used in aluminum yoyos? Aren’t there other alloys? Is it impossible to anodize other alloys?

There are other alloys. The more dense the harder to anodize. 6061 and 7075 are possibly easier to get in the US? That’s just what my machine shops offer, I think they could use others if I asked.

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### Author: ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/133 "2013-07-13T17:33:02Z")

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> [@bassthumb32](#):
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> I think it’s great that you are so active on the forum. I hadn’t planned on buying any of your throws initially but seeing this shows me that you really care. Something that isn’t found in many businesses. Kudos to you!

I appreciate the appreciation.  
Thank you!

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### Author: ![aznnboyaZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aznnboyaz/32/651830_2.png) [@aznnboyaZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznnboyaZ)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/134 "2013-07-13T17:51:06Z")

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For future yoyos.  
Do you ever plan to make 1 insanely bogus design? Like MFD with the evilyo and lesula. YYF with the AG1 And 2 and CLYW with the GE and cliff?

And how do you feel about very V shaped, rim weighted, speed demon-esque yoyos?

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### Author: ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/135 "2013-07-13T18:22:14Z")

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A yoyo with side effects?

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### Author: ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/136 "2013-07-13T22:09:52Z")

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> [@aznnboyaZ](#):
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> For future yoyos.  
> Do you ever plan to make 1 insanely bogus design? Like MFD with the evilyo and lesula. YYF with the AG1 And 2 and CLYW with the GE and cliff?
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> And how do you feel about very V shaped, rim weighted, speed demon-esque yoyos?

Nothing like the MFD 2 but maybe something with negative space. The cliff is a very nice yoyo.

As far as a speed demon V shape… You might be onto something. Stay tuned :wink:

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### Author: ![aznnboyaZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aznnboyaz/32/651830_2.png) [@aznnboyaZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznnboyaZ)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/137 "2013-07-13T22:18:01Z")

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Ahh, so you’re into the undercut game eh?  
And Sweet! V shaped demons are probably my go to yoyos when I just wanna knock out a super long combo.  
They seem to be the most basic, yet some of the most effective.

Now tell me this, how do you feel about 60mm and above diameter?  
I’d love to see you tackle that sort of yoyo!

And offstring, would you get into that industry? Or do you not play offstring enough? Haha!

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### Author: ![jwil425](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6de8d8/32.png) [@jwil425](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jwil425)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/138 "2013-07-14T00:33:43Z")

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What’s your favorite NES game?

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### Author: ![snowmanjoshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snowmanjoshu/32/53715_2.png) [@snowmanjoshu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/snowmanjoshu)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/139 "2013-07-14T01:56:49Z")

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> [@aznnboyaZ](#):
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> Ahh, so you’re into the undercut game eh?  
> And Sweet! V shaped demons are probably my go to yoyos when I just wanna knock out a super long combo.  
> They seem to be the most basic, yet some of the most effective.
> 
> Now tell me this, how do you feel about 60mm and above diameter?  
> I’d love to see you tackle that sort of yoyo!
> 
> And offstring, would you get into that industry? Or do you not play offstring enough? Haha!

He said a few pages ago that he wouldnt go over 57.xx anytime soon.

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### Author: ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-ask-g2-jake-thread/55638/140 "2013-07-15T02:55:14Z")

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> [@aznnboyaZ](#):
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> Ahh, so you’re into the undercut game eh?  
> And Sweet! V shaped demons are probably my go to yoyos when I just wanna knock out a super long combo.  
> They seem to be the most basic, yet some of the most effective.
> 
> Now tell me this, how do you feel about 60mm and above diameter?  
> I’d love to see you tackle that sort of yoyo!
> 
> And offstring, would you get into that industry? Or do you not play offstring enough? Haha!

Don’t plan on going that big anytime soon.

As for offstring. I don’t have the capital to invest in a mold, or have delrin machined. Also I don’t play much offstring so I’m not sure how well I would do designing one. So this is pretty unlikely. But never say never.

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