# The 5a May Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [May 4, 2014, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940 "2014-05-04T14:35:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/21 "2014-05-07T01:13:51Z")
Jake has been making bearing counter weights for longer than yyj has. ---
**Author:** ![Jake\_Elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/22 "2014-05-07T02:16:21Z")
> [@Shai\_Hulud](#): > > Well the bearing thing is patented by Yoyojam right? So I don’t think Duncan can make counterweights with bearings in them. Probably better to petition Yoyojam since they’re licensed to make counterweights and the bearings. Plus they’re a smaller company. I sincerely doubt Duncan would do a thing unless thousands of players petitioned them. Emailing Duncan will do more than you think it will. > [@Yoyo](#): > > Jake has been making bearing counter weights for longer than yyj has. Technically not accurate. I produced my own the same day YYJ announced their design. With the delrin counterweights I improved upon their design by changing a few key elements. If you snap spin the counterweight while it’s attached to the string, it will spin for a minute or more. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov8aERbSH9c&feature=youtu.be](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov8aERbSH9c&feature=youtu.be) Also, new 5a may video! This video is for one handed helicopter, one of my favorite tricks. It looks snazzy and is much quicker to get into than regular helicopter. ---
**Author:** ![Logi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/logi/32/7932_2.png) [@Logi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Logi)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/23 "2014-05-07T02:50:30Z")
> [@Yoyo](#): > > October is already for fixed axles though. No string November? ---
**Author:** ![Raptor\_T](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raptor_t/32/111715_2.png) [@Raptor\_T](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raptor_T)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/24 "2014-05-07T04:09:44Z")
> [@Logi](#): > > No string November? how bout 2a Tuesday. And I just got back into 5a and I love it. So much FUN. ---
**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/25 "2014-05-07T06:03:26Z")
> [@Yoyo](#): > > Jake has been making bearing counter weights for longer than yyj has. I don’t think who made what first really matters as far as patents go. Takeshi’s dad made the original Takeshi dice and sold the patent to yoyojam as far as I know. Whether Jake or Takeshi’s dad made these bearing dice first I have no idea. By the way I emailed Yoyojam and said we want delrin Takeshi dice. EDIT: I may have been mistaken on YYJ having the patent on the Takeshi dice. I’ve been informed it would be more productive to email DUNCAN about delrin counterweights like these as they may already be considering them. So please everyone just take a minute to use their [contact form](https://www.yo-yo.com/index.php/site/contact) and annoy Duncan about producing Delrin counterweights with bearings 🙂 AND… FIRST MESSAGE AWAY! ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/26 "2014-05-07T14:33:19Z")
> [@Logi](#): > > No string November? Oh yeah October is open November is for fixies nvm. ---
**Author:** ![Raptor\_T](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raptor_t/32/111715_2.png) [@Raptor\_T](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raptor_T)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/27 "2014-05-07T19:59:53Z")
> [@Yoyo](#): > > Oh yeah October is open November is for fixies nvm. ya know, we really need a yoyo calendar to remember all the days, and months and how they compare to the yoyo community. And I don’t believe that November is for fixed axles, that’s February. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/28 "2014-05-07T20:35:46Z")
I remember a no bearing November. ---
**Author:** ![Raptor\_T](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raptor_t/32/111715_2.png) [@Raptor\_T](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raptor_T)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/29 "2014-05-07T20:42:31Z")
> [@Yoyo](#): > > I remember a no bearing November. Hmmmmm, I guess there are two fixed axle months. ---
**Author:** ![Dreamer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dreamer/32/217610_2.png) [@Dreamer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dreamer)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/30 "2014-05-07T20:54:00Z")
> [@Raptor\_T](#): > > ya know, we really need a yoyo calendar to remember all the days, and months and how they compare to the yoyo community. And I don’t believe that November is for fixed axles, that’s February. You said it! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jake\_Elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/31 "2014-05-07T21:04:55Z")
Here is a reshot version of yesterday’s tutorial and a brand new tutorial. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYSiHiHPjHk) [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXM6za5OiN8) ---
**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/32 "2014-05-07T21:42:06Z")
Thanks for the reshot Jake I was going to say something but didn’t, yesterday’s vid was pretty dark looking. Also, for anyone who missed my earlier post correction: Please just take a minute to use Duncan’s [contact form](https://www.yo-yo.com/index.php/site/contact) to ask them about producing Delrin counterweights with bearings 🙂 Jake says it will have more impact than we might think! I’m inclined to believe him. DO IT \>:( RARGH EDIT: Jeez, Jake, picking apart all my posts here. I was using “annoy” playfully, didn’t mean people should contact them for the purpose of annoying them. More like, we should pester them until they produce delrin counterweights so we can buy them. ---
**Author:** ![Jake\_Elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/33 "2014-05-07T21:58:17Z")
For the record: You shouldn’t “annoy” Duncan, as they are busy people with jobs to do, but if you have a legitimate interest in the product and if you think that you’ll buy one if they are released, then you should send them an email explaining your desire for one. ---
**Author:** ![jonrob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4af34b/32.png) [@jonrob](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jonrob)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/34 "2014-05-07T22:21:16Z")
[www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxaK6xIk6nA&feature=youtu.be](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxaK6xIk6nA&feature=youtu.be) ---
**Author:** ![Logi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/logi/32/7932_2.png) [@Logi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Logi)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/35 "2014-05-08T01:26:14Z")
Been working on some fixed 5a stuff. I’ll post it tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Jake\_Elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/36 "2014-05-09T01:15:48Z")
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSPL42DGIY) Today’s video is double beesting. Learn this trick because it leads into repeating beesting which is coming later in the month! ---
**Author:** ![modman10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/modman10/32/874_2.png) [@modman10](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/modman10)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/37 "2014-05-09T02:16:16Z")
> [@Shai\_Hulud](#): > > Thanks for the reshot Jake I was going to say something but didn’t, yesterday’s vid was pretty dark looking. > > Also, for anyone who missed my earlier post correction: > > Please just take a minute to use Duncan’s [contact form](https://www.yo-yo.com/index.php/site/contact) to ask them about producing Delrin counterweights with bearings 🙂 > > Jake says it will have more impact than we might think! I’m inclined to believe him. DO IT \>:( RARGH > > EDIT: Jeez, Jake, picking apart all my posts here. I was using “annoy” playfully, didn’t mean people should contact them for the purpose of annoying them. More like, we should pester them until they produce delrin counterweights so we can buy them. Done! I hope they listen! ---
**Author:** ![Rasu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rasu/32/1507_2.png) [@Rasu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rasu)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/38 "2014-05-09T17:50:04Z")
I remember when Counter weight started. Never got into it back then but maybe now I will. What kind of counter weight would you recommend for someone just getting into it? Dice, ball, funky heads, or Takeshi Dice? I saw Steve posting about some clear red weights he had on Instagram and then mentioned the white ones. Didn’t mean to de-rail the topic if I did… ---
**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/39 "2014-05-09T21:00:13Z")
Takeshi dice are the standard for normal folk who don’t machine their own from delrin :wink: But if you’re starting out a Ducan monkey ball might be good because they don’t hurt to catch them, won’t scuff the yoyo even on hard collisions, and weigh about as much as a Takeshi die. ---
**Author:** ![Jake\_Elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940/40 "2014-05-10T00:37:47Z")
Today’s tutorial > **[5a May – Jake Elliott Tutorial – Under Pops](https://yoyonews.com/2014/05/09/5a-may-jake-elliott-tutorial-pops/)** > > Under pops is an easy repeater than fits nicely into many combos. It’s a simple concept that can easily be build upon with different kinds of hops and horizontal variations.   Here is a … > [@Rasu](#): > > I remember when Counter weight started. Never got into it back then but maybe now I will. > What kind of counter weight would you recommend for someone just getting into it? > Dice, ball, funky heads, or Takeshi Dice? > > I saw Steve posting about some clear red weights he had on Instagram and then mentioned the white ones. > > Didn’t mean to de-rail the topic if I did… Pick up a Duncan counterweight pack. It includes two dice and a bouncy ball. Later, if you want to upgrade, you can pick up a takeshi dice. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-5a-may-discussion-thread/65940.md?page=3)