# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive)
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1977 "2024-03-28T21:01:52Z")
I played the Weekender for quite a bit, but something about the balance of it I didn’t like. Daytripper was also good, but again, the weight with the balance didn’t jive with me.
I take back my previous statement, I do have the Workhorse that we’re working on in the Boomer Club.
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1978 "2024-03-28T21:04:09Z")
People in the Boomers club seem to really like the Workhorse.
Fun fact: I like very few responsive metals. I’m not even much of a fan of the RBC. I 😅
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### Author:  [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1979 "2024-03-28T21:05:10Z")
This is like Frankenstein calling his monster an abomination
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### Author:  [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1980 "2024-03-28T21:06:41Z")
Yeah, I didn’t like the RBC, no offense. Loved the idea, but couldn’t bond with the play of it. I’ve had the metal Harbinger now for 4-5 hours. Maybe 20-30mins of play so far, with little work breaks, and haven’t run into any of the things that I’ve almost immediately felt with other 0A yoyos.
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### Author:  [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1981 "2024-03-28T21:09:34Z")
> [@AaronW](#):
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> haven’t run into any of the things that I’ve almost immediately felt with other 0A yoyos.
What would be one of those things?
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1982 "2024-03-28T21:10:16Z")
I’m glad you like it. With the Harbinger, I really wanted to nail the ideal metal responsive.
I think Mark and I just _may_ have achieved this. Just maybe. At least currently anyway. I’m very happy with it and I throw mine all the time.
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1983 "2024-03-28T21:11:23Z")
> [@AaronW](#):
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> Yeah, I didn’t like the RBC,
No offense whatsoever. As I said, I don’t really like it either. It feels good to hold, but there are performances issues.
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### Author:  [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1984 "2024-03-28T21:11:48Z")
Balance/weight distribution is a big thing.
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1985 "2024-03-28T21:13:03Z")
> [@AaronW](#):
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> Balance/weight distribution
Yes, even for modern responsives where people don’t think it would matter so much.
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### Author:  [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1986 "2024-03-28T21:18:39Z")
I will say that my 0A leans more in the 1A direction than toward fixed axles. So when I’d play some of the other 0A yoyos on the market and play them like a fixie, the balance is off for me. You have a solid piece of wood for the halves compared to thin, hollowed out aluminum. The feel and balance aren’t the same. And when I play, like I normally do, they’re either very snaggy, or there isn’t enough rim weight to keep them balanced on the string or to spin long enough. They also want a lighter throw, at least to me they do, so when I’d throw harder, they’d snag really quick.
I can throw the metal Harbinger harder than I’ve been able to with say the Weekender/Day Tripper. The balance on fixie style of play is almost right on, close enough that I’m not drastically noticing it. And it’s not as snaggy as the RBC’s that I had were. Looking forward to the pads breaking in on the Harbinger.
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1987 "2024-03-28T21:23:06Z")
Grab yourself a 3mm wide MR85 and it may lend itself even further to your playstyle while remaining decently responsive.
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### Author:  [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1988 "2024-03-28T21:31:01Z")
May give that a shot down the road! Thanks
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1989 "2024-03-28T21:34:50Z")
How does the Workhorse play, @AaronW ?
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### Author:  [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1990 "2024-03-28T21:47:58Z")
> [@anon5341354](#):
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> I think Mark and I just _may_ have achieved this.
I think the 2 of you have definitely created something with a feel that is very unique and different from all the others I’ve tried. I love my Deep State but if it was the only yo-yo I had, I would feel want. If the Harbinger were the only yo-yo I had…I feel I could be happy with this. It is indeed very special and my love for it is only increasing. 😁
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### Author:  [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1991 "2024-03-29T13:35:45Z")
It’s nice. I’ll get some comparison photos and post them. It’s a different thing from the metal Harbinger. Workhorse has a D bearing, it has more rim weight, it’s heavier (mine says 54.19g on my scale), slightly wider gap. We’re working on a v2 proto right now, haven’t seen the renderings yet, but the weight is going a bit lower, but the weight distribution is getting shifted, and the catch zone is getting modified.
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### Author:  [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1992 "2024-03-29T13:49:40Z")
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### Author:  [@Pun1sh3R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pun1sh3R)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1993 "2024-03-29T13:53:38Z")
Renderings and Profile for v.2 were posted in the Boomer thread.
> [@Yoyo Boomers Club](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-boomers-club/381535/2540):
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> Work Horse V.2 in process; Minor changes. Mostly seen in the cup. Bigger schmoove. Catchzone widened slightly. Moved more weight to the outer edge of the rim making the irg larger. Also added some weight to the inner wall toward the rim. (Most notable change to the eye) To bring the weight back up to where V1 was. [1000003916] [1000003917] I am waiting on the Prototype Order information. There will be a limited number. As soon as I have the information, I will post preorder informatio…
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### Author:  [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1994 "2024-03-29T23:14:00Z")
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### Author:  [@Mystik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mystik)
#### Post date: [March 30, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1995 "2024-03-30T00:01:06Z")
Sick flex.
:fire: :skull::fire: :skull::fire:
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### Author:  [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1996 "2024-04-03T15:19:24Z")
Okay so I said I was done but the last batch sold so quickly I want to make more available - despite being a real pain to make. Anyone still interested in homebrew MR85 blanks? I will start making more soon and can reserve some if wanted.
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