# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 92
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1837 "2023-12-20T02:52:14Z")
New workshop looks nice! I think you’ve sold me on a Superman half swap. ---
**Author:** ![Ardeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ardeus/32/594405_2.png) [@Ardeus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ardeus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1838 "2023-12-20T02:55:20Z")
Excited for both the Harbinger and the workshop! 🙌 🤗 ---
**Author:** ![Yodaddyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yodaddyo/32/602050_2.png) [@Yodaddyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yodaddyo)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1839 "2023-12-20T03:10:28Z")
I am mad jealous of that shop you got there glen. So very cool. I’d be so happy to just have a workbench. haha :joy: ---
**Author:** ![Pun1sh3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pun1sh3r/32/193125_2.png) [@Pun1sh3R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pun1sh3R)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1840 "2023-12-20T03:19:01Z")
It even has the new color way we were just chatting about in the Boomer Thread! ---
**Author:** ![Veedo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/veedo/32/242414_2.png) [@Veedo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Veedo)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1841 "2023-12-20T10:54:28Z")
Put white string on that thing, stat! ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1842 "2023-12-20T10:58:17Z")
The white string I have is rubbish for it unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1843 "2023-12-20T12:38:48Z")
Some will say it’s red white and blue for America but boomers will know it’s what makes you feel better. ---
**Author:** ![DCorella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6de8d8/32.png) [@DCorella](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DCorella)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1844 "2023-12-20T16:26:58Z")
I’ve really been enjoying my fixed axle yoyo the last few months, one thing I’ve been curious about is how long do y’all make your strings? I’ve seen some people on youtube that use shorter strings than they do with a non-responsive yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1845 "2023-12-20T16:51:31Z")
> [@DCorella](#): > > how long do y’all make your strings? It depends on the yoyo. Usually as the diameter of the yoyo increases I increase the string length. There is a relationship between string length and how well the yoyo performs shoots the moon. ---
**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1846 "2023-12-20T18:27:27Z")
Ya as you get more nuanced with setup, there can be factors such as axle size, gap size, response type and overall diameter that will affect string length and thickness. This is notably to alter kickback (or loop up) vs. what I like to call kick forward (or loop down). But overall I prefer a long string on most of my fixed axles, nearly as long as my unresponsive setup - in my case the top of the loop is usually about 2 inches below my sternum. This means that my arm parallel to the ground, with elbow at 90 degrees, the yo-yo is about an inch off the ground. I think I play with a longer fixie setup than most people though. Its just my preference. ---
**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1847 "2023-12-20T18:33:34Z")
But when replacing the string, I initially leave an extra tail on the loop and adjust the string length as it breaks in. This is done by feel rather than by a specific length. So you should just experiment and figure out what feels good for you based on your own style. I do a lot more stalls than loops, so I prefer extra string to help with control. ---
**Author:** ![Ardeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ardeus/32/594405_2.png) [@Ardeus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ardeus)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1848 "2023-12-27T11:26:17Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/6/7/a673636bb65384dd3f2df36d34aa99ef0d7cd8e7.jpeg "PockeHt fun") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLWPn4l8t8U) ---
**Author:** ![Ardeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ardeus/32/594405_2.png) [@Ardeus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ardeus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1849 "2024-01-19T11:32:18Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/4/6/c46ee04312c19522f42a6c4c20947ed4cd0e8984.jpeg "Learning fixed axle 5A with an all-leather yoyo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5401zCYv5T0) Happy Fixed Axle Friday! I’ve been learning fixed axle 5a since I got this all-leather yoyo about a week ago. Having lots of fun even though I don’t know what I’m doing 90% of the time. :joy: ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1850 "2024-01-19T17:01:50Z")
I love seeing people cross boundaries. Taking something that is made for one thing (supposedly) and making it do something it (supposedly) shouldn’t do. Awesome!! ---
**Author:** ![abellia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abellia/32/627459_2.png) [@abellia](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abellia)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1851 "2024-01-25T22:49:05Z")
Hey wait, isn’t the 0a logo also the therian symbol? ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1852 "2024-01-26T00:02:18Z")
No, the 0A symbol has an oval(number zero) and the therian symbol has a circle. Also, the circle of the therian symbol goes through the top of the triangle, and the 0 in the 0A symbol does not. ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1853 "2024-01-26T00:35:15Z")
Don’t pick a fight with the 0A folks. We are harmless and just want to chill with our fixies. ---
**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1854 "2024-01-26T01:09:13Z")
I just looked this up because I had never heard of it before. The therian symbol is actually composed of two Greek letters delta and theta. The theta is in the middle, and though looks similar to a zero, it is not and is differentiated by the dash that goes through the centre. ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1855 "2024-01-26T01:57:29Z")
I was just making the point that the theta used in the therian symbol is a circle and not a zero. And also, that the circle goes through the top of the triangle in the therian symbol and the zero doesn’t in the 0A symbol. Therian symbol: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/0/a/60aac86c9ebb213cd7723cd0a9b7664ef0651355.jpeg) 0A symbol: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/9/b/e9b1509ee79e7fd66f0ebd0ca39d0a2b72220392.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![abellia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abellia/32/627459_2.png) [@abellia](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abellia)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1856 "2024-01-26T02:22:27Z")
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