# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/162 "2019-09-23T20:57:35Z")
Ah, so stalls are where you let the yoyo die on the string and then use a regen to induce spin back into it at some point. It looks so odd to see yoyo play that involves a yoyo that is flopping around dead on the string. In some ways it reminds me of the difference between American juggling (where the objects are in constant motion) and European juggling (where there is a lot of toss-stop-and-present…shift-and-present…etc.). ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/163 "2019-09-23T21:00:35Z")
And here’s me being absolute garbage, but still having fun! (Just to illustrate that you don’t have to reach Ed-levels of skill to enjoy fixie shinanigans) [https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx7sEQ9BQNk/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_copy\_link](https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx7sEQ9BQNk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link) ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/164 "2019-09-23T21:21:25Z")
@EOS44 I’m pretty blown away that you can perform whip and slack tricks on that Harbinger. I would have said that’s the worse wood variant for to perform those sort of tricks. The European beech is really light and has less spin than others. Yours must weigh under 50g. It would be interesting to see what you could do with a 60-70g Harbinger. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/165 "2019-09-24T01:51:55Z")
[https://www.instagram.com/p/B2xqq6uhs22/?igshid=hxjjij3dvzim](https://www.instagram.com/p/B2xqq6uhs22/?igshid=hxjjij3dvzim) ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/166 "2019-09-24T19:20:44Z")
> [@Myk\_Myk](#): > > Slacks and whips elude me on responsive yoyos > [@MarkD](#): > > You can make them act unresponsive by loosening tension, then figuring out if you’re on a sweet/sour throw (it alternates between more and less responsive) > [@edhaponik](#): > > Doing tricks on wood which are typically in the realm of unresponsive requires you to be smooth, and obviously to keep any slack string out of the immediate gap. Understanding the spin direction and “sidedness” of the string is also important. Of course I’ve read these tips many times, but sometimes it just takes a while for things to sink into my thick skull. Also, I think an unresponsive fixie has somehow been abhorrent to my sensibilities. However, I just tried in earnest to follow the advice, and I landed Plastic Whip and Hidemasa Hook on my Bonsai! Bonsai is my name for the small Spinworthy, though now I see he named it Burl… Of course, now that I’m attempting this stuff, hello axle knots…! ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/167 "2019-09-24T19:43:40Z")
Who’s got the low-down on kickflips and Aerials? I can’t seem to get consistent. ---
**Author:** ![Jhonaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhonaker/32/49024_2.png) [@Jhonaker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jhonaker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/168 "2019-09-24T19:46:14Z")
Out of curiousity, what kind of string and legth does everyone prefer for 0A? Maybe a preference for fixed axle wood play and metal modern responsive like the Weekender, AlleyCat, or Deep State, and of course the new Moonshine 2.0. @edhaponik @DocPop@EOS44 ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/169 "2019-09-24T19:53:43Z")
I prefer the traditional bellybutton-to-floor length for responsives. ---
**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/170 "2019-09-24T19:56:29Z")
I use yye type 10 on wood and fat poly on the 650b & other modern responsive metals. 🙂 String length depends on what I’m doing but generally right around belly button length? ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/171 "2019-09-24T19:57:36Z")
Do you play kendama at all? I’ve found that a lot of fixed axle is a lot like kendama where you need to use your knees. Almost like shocks, bend your knees, as you go to kickflip come up from your knees, and as you catch bend your knees again. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/172 "2019-09-24T20:25:17Z")
I’ve tried. My toddler uses the ‘ball stick’ more than I do. I’ve been working the knees. ---
**Author:** ![DocPop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/docpop/32/605009_2.png) [@DocPop](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DocPop)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/173 "2019-09-24T20:28:52Z")
The shorter and thinner the string, the better for stalls in my opinion. I like belly button length string and can use most anything that isn’t too thick. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/174 "2019-09-24T20:31:45Z")
> [@Myk\_Myk](#): > > Bonsai is my name for the small Spinworthy, though now I see he named it Burl… The name is actually Burly. I changed it one more time after writing the name on the back of the sticker it came with. ---
**Author:** ![Jhonaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhonaker/32/49024_2.png) [@Jhonaker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jhonaker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/175 "2019-09-24T21:31:57Z")
I switch mine out for Kitty Fat on the 650b and it does make a difference from the normal kitty. ---
**Author:** ![Jhonaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhonaker/32/49024_2.png) [@Jhonaker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jhonaker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/176 "2019-09-24T21:33:00Z")
I was using cotton on my Weekender for a little while. Now with the new pads in there, the normal Kitty works well! I really like the weight and feel of the Weekender alot. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/177 "2019-09-24T23:44:52Z")
Oh yeah I missed the type. I like cotton for wood fixed, either 8 or 10. I like poly for responsive. My favorite is Plutonium. I like the Venom and Ammo too. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/178 "2019-09-24T23:47:09Z")
After receiving it, I feel Bonsai should definitely be the name! 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/179 "2019-09-24T23:58:42Z")
How do you find it plays? ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/180 "2019-09-25T16:34:53Z")
It plays really nice for Fixie stuff, though I haven’t learned Aerials yet. It took me a bit to be able to STM, but I can do it now. It requires a bit more motion it seems, to not go too horizontal out the back. I’m not the best looper, but it loops fine. It doesn’t spin as long, and isn’t as forgiving as your other designs I’ve tried. That makes it less capable at 1A IMO. It makes up for that by being just really fun and unique! I can still pull off Kwyjibo, and those other tricks I mentioned above, except Cold Fusion. I can’t quite make it through that one yet. I can’t do as many Boings with it, and I have to be really smooth and accurate to get out of it with a finishing loop. It’s also one of those yoyos that feels really good to just throw. It makes a very satisfying smack coming back to the hand, and the shape and smoothness of the finish feels so nice in the hand. I enjoy just dong Gravity Pull with it. It’s grabbed just about all my attention for responsive play since I’ve gotten it. I’ll get around to the Boon soon! ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/181 "2019-09-25T17:05:58Z")
2.5. fix/cotton string. No gif this time sorry (video is worthy tho). [https://www.instagram.com/p/B21zRfTAPJq/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_copy\_link](https://www.instagram.com/p/B21zRfTAPJq/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link) [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228.md?page=10)