# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1617 "2023-04-07T01:32:38Z")
I was able to get 1/4” dowel for replacing a Butterfly axle at Home Depot. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1618 "2023-04-07T01:43:42Z")
Do you remember what type of wood it was? I was hoping for something super hard. ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1619 "2023-04-07T01:54:58Z")
I got oak dowel. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1620 "2023-04-07T02:05:31Z")
I was day dreaming about Purpleheart dowels but that may just be a fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1621 "2023-04-07T02:06:01Z")
It’s a large gap, and there doesn’t seem to be much in the way of a response system at all, or at least where it counts. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1622 "2023-04-07T02:08:36Z")
What is your go to gap width if I may ask? ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Newlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eric_newlin/32/598950_2.png) [@Eric\_Newlin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eric_Newlin)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1623 "2023-04-07T02:14:34Z")
Here’s a place to get purpleheart dowels that are 5/16” diameter. [https://www.cincinnatidowel.com/game-calls-and-parts/striker-tips-square-cut-tip.html](https://www.cincinnatidowel.com/game-calls-and-parts/striker-tips-square-cut-tip.html) ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1624 "2023-04-07T02:21:18Z")
It really does depend on the whole yoyo. Response is contextual. Somthi g more like 2.25mm would be fairly failsafe for most designs. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1625 "2023-04-07T02:33:43Z")
Thanks so much for this, helps a lot! So many options too. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1626 "2023-04-07T02:36:23Z")
Awesome. Yea I planned on doing 4-8 pretty shallow circle response groves on either side. Now to find something about 2.25mm thick to keep wedged between the halves while it dries. ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1627 "2023-04-07T02:38:18Z")
I set butterflies with 2 pennies taped together. I think it’s about 3mm. ---
**Author:** ![Hojo-YoYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hojo-yoyo/32/275876_2.png) [@Hojo-YoYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hojo-YoYo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1628 "2023-04-07T17:22:47Z")
I was able to gently twist the Abba Zabba apart, and as you can see there’s not much in the way of response. I would like to add some response hole, maybe go all the way through like @anon5341354 button (if he is OK with that) I have a few questions What size response holes, how deep or all the way through? How far away from the axle should they be? What should the gap size be? What glue should I use to put it back together? Thanks for the help. ![20230407_105100](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/1/a/61afcd19f426758e7ce4fc13f60e946cc68a624d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Newlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eric_newlin/32/598950_2.png) [@Eric\_Newlin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eric_Newlin)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1629 "2023-04-07T18:04:48Z")
I like 1/8” or 3.125mm holes. They seem to work really well without much snagging potential. They don’t need to be very deep- just about 1/8” (same depth and width in this case). If it was me, I would get the holes as close to the axle as you can without actually making the response holes and axle hole intersect. A 1/16” buffer is probably good. For the gap, I like 8 Bicycle playing cards, which is about 2.25 or 2.3 mm For gluing, a wood glue would be fine, unless you feel confident and want to use a 2-part epoxy like JB Weld or T-88. ---
**Author:** ![Hojo-YoYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hojo-yoyo/32/275876_2.png) [@Hojo-YoYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hojo-YoYo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1630 "2023-04-07T18:18:13Z")
Thanks for the information. How many response holes would you recommend? Howard ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Newlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eric_newlin/32/598950_2.png) [@Eric\_Newlin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eric_Newlin)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1631 "2023-04-07T21:03:34Z")
4-6 holes seem to work well. For smaller holes, I would do more holes, like 6-8. ---
**Author:** ![Hojo-YoYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hojo-yoyo/32/275876_2.png) [@Hojo-YoYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hojo-YoYo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1632 "2023-04-07T21:33:49Z")
Eric, Thanks again for the information. This is what I went with, it’s a combination of the button style and small response holes. ![20230407_152933](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/3X/e/6/e6a7aa894ba87d9964458634c4a6bbb5ad43955b.jpeg) I set te gap with the 8 playing card which put it at 2.25mm ![20230407_165138](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/3X/d/d/dd4e98ab2e147018b5f2bb98656b9c6b59645f70.jpeg) I glued it together with a two part epoxy which sets up in 5 minutes then sanded off the extra length of the axle. ![Abba Zabba Woodworks Button](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/3X/8/a/8acd3e8931d0eaa71e349d8c39439e7d0d7c982b.jpeg) Threw a string on it and gave it a throw, it came out great. It sleeps pretty good and returns with a tug. Still need to break in the string but I am much happier now. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeper80](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sleeper80/32/257936_2.png) [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1633 "2023-04-07T21:37:32Z")
Rad! ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Newlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eric_newlin/32/598950_2.png) [@Eric\_Newlin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eric_Newlin)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1634 "2023-04-07T21:38:09Z")
That’s a pretty cool response pattern! I like the alternating hole sizes. ---
**Author:** ![Hojo-YoYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hojo-yoyo/32/275876_2.png) [@Hojo-YoYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hojo-YoYo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1635 "2023-04-07T21:40:23Z")
It seems to work pretty good ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1636 "2023-04-07T22:06:06Z")
Wow this is so awesome! Did you go with 1/8” and 1/4” holes? @Eric_Newlin have you ever used Poly wood glue or would you not recommend since it tends to expand? [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228.md?page=80) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228.md?page=82)