# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 80
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1596 "2023-04-06T01:03:10Z")
I have the opposite issue with my Legend Wing. The axle in mine is so rough the string doesn’t slide on it at all. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1597 "2023-04-06T01:08:16Z")
It took a little time for mine (Legend Wing) to play smoothly. At first I was like “this yoyo stinks” but in a few days it was smooth after lots of throwing that is. ---
**Author:** ![GTDropKnot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gtdropknot/32/212400_2.png) [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1598 "2023-04-06T01:09:10Z")
Aight thanks y’all! They’re spinning good now! Better than I thought they would so that’s sweet. Do I have to use cotton strings? I got the ones that came with, but all my other strings are poly or nylon of various widths. Would those work? ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1599 "2023-04-06T01:19:39Z")
Cotton would be best. You can allegedly melt poly. I haven’t really tried since cotton string is pretty cheap here on YYE. I use Type 10 on most fixies but something thinner on the Legend Wing because the gap is pretty narrow. I just looked here on YYE and it looks like they’re out of cotton string? > **[100 Count - 100% Cotton - YoYoExpert String](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/100-count-100-cotton-yoyoexpert-string)** > > Good Yo-Yo string is essential if you want to get the most out of your yo-yo. 100% cotton is best for the beginner yo-yo player just starting with the very basics and responsive play. Also great if just starting to work on a bind return for... I’ve used a little Slick 6. I don’t like it as much but it’s in stock on YYE and should work. It’s a 50/50 cotton/poly. > **[100 Count - SLICK 6 - YoYoExpert String](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/100-count-slick-6-yoyoexpert-string)** > > Good Yo-Yo string is essential if you want to get the most out of your yo-yo. Luckily we have come a far way from the basic cotton strings your grandfathers had.Slick 6 also known as 50/50 Polyester/Cotton is a more responsive string better for... ---
**Author:** ![rizki\_yoist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizki_yoist/32/7925_2.png) [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1600 "2023-04-06T02:57:13Z")
Personally if the axle feels too unresponsive, I use Burt Bee’s Beeswax as recommended by DocPop. It is perfect. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1601 "2023-04-06T22:06:52Z")
I just hit the inside of my Legend Wing with some 220 sandpaper and this thing plays freakin’ great now! It’s weird to say about such a cheap wood yoyo but the response is snappy and reliable with a thick cotton string. I want to order another just so I can have one as a beater. Would anyone happen to know what type of wood the “natural” one is? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeper80](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sleeper80/32/257936_2.png) [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1602 "2023-04-06T22:10:44Z")
maple ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1603 "2023-04-06T22:14:47Z")
Sweet. I have a cherry one now. I wonder if the maple gives it a noticeable weight increase. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeper80](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sleeper80/32/257936_2.png) [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1604 "2023-04-06T22:15:38Z")
pretty sure they are all maple, the cherry one is just stain i believe . ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1606 "2023-04-06T23:46:21Z")
Oo ok, that makes more sense. I’m sorta playing with the idea of sawing one in half, drilling out the axle and putting a nicer, thicker, one in, and adding some shallow response circle grooves. Creating a suped up Legend Wing. We’ll see if I hold onto the motivation though… ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1607 "2023-04-06T23:50:43Z")
I cracked a Legend Wing in half playing responsive 5A (on like the second throw) and thought I would drill out and replace the axle, but it turns out my tools and woodworking skills were not up to the task 😞 ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1608 "2023-04-06T23:52:14Z")
We’re you using a drill press? ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1609 "2023-04-06T23:54:08Z")
No. That was my big problem 😁 ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1610 "2023-04-06T23:59:44Z")
Ah ok. I think the drill press will be my saving grace on this project should I choose to move forward. ---
**Author:** ![Hojo-YoYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hojo-yoyo/32/275876_2.png) [@Hojo-YoYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hojo-YoYo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1611 "2023-04-07T00:44:19Z")
I purchased an Abba Zabba Woodworks fixed axle from the BST section and tonight I threw on a ZipLine Kot-n string and gave it a throw. It was very slippery and did not return with any tug, the gap seems fairly wide 3.10mm. There are some spiral cuts on the side walls near the axle. I gave it a double loop and now it returns very snappy and doesn’t sleep. I did get 10 hop the fences in a row. I might try a generic cotton string (Duncan I think) and see if that helps. I’m open to suggestions. ![Screenshot_20230403_062858_Email](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/3X/e/d/ed1a4890f26e87ace43ec5a77948c1a117b3ea53.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20230403_062853_Email](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/3X/8/9/89fce514c5de843d101d3976971907119263d7cb.jpeg) ![20230406_205521](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/9/2/d9228d684377f3033a77fc9ba3560a7e5e3d72a1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sleeper80](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sleeper80/32/257936_2.png) [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1612 "2023-04-07T00:54:51Z")
Its the right price for modding adventures, do it! ---
**Author:** ![Sleeper80](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sleeper80/32/257936_2.png) [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1613 "2023-04-07T00:57:12Z")
Try more string torsion single looped and break it in.the gap is also pretty wide… ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1614 "2023-04-07T00:58:08Z")
Kot-n is slow to break in (it also lasts longer. Trade offs). Crank up the torsion and play like that for a few minutes, then return it to neutral and see if it plays better. ---
**Author:** ![TommyBwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tommybwell/32/304464_2.png) [@TommyBwell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TommyBwell)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1615 "2023-04-07T01:08:17Z")
> [@TryCatchThrow](#): > > Crank up the torsion Its crazy how often I dont think to do that. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1616 "2023-04-07T01:26:58Z")
I ordered 2 to give it a try! Now I just need to find a wood shop to get some hard wood dowels for axles. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228.md?page=79) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228.md?page=81)