# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive)

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1353 "2021-11-11T00:48:16Z")

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Ok you got me on semantics. Bit it is _highly improbable_ that anything you’ve let out of your workshop would get a mostly negative reception. Your standards are higher than most humans :joy:.

I mean this as a compliment of course.

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### Author: ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1354 "2021-11-11T02:16:02Z")

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Yeah, it’s not infallible, but I’ve gotten quite a few free that I would have cut earlier on. I am not talking about pulling on the string. I mean really sharp, fast, hard jerks back and forth.

I was just playing with my Survivalist. Try guiding the yoyo around more than you do with a looper. Slow that part down a bit, less of a snap to it.

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### Author: ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1355 "2021-11-17T22:12:52Z")

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Had to post this little short vid with @RC_yo-yo purple zebra fixie. Hard to put it down!  
[https://www.instagram.com/tv/CWZJj5Vpy6S/?utm\_medium=copy\_link](https://www.instagram.com/tv/CWZJj5Vpy6S/?utm_medium=copy_link)

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### Author: ![RC\_yo-yo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rc_yo-yo/32/168781_2.png) [@RC\_yo-yo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RC_yo-yo)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1356 "2021-11-17T22:27:04Z")

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Wow. I’m not as good you, so it’s cool to see my yo-yo do something so amazing.

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### Author: ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1357 "2021-11-17T22:32:29Z")

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that little 1.5 suicide thing was sick

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### Author: ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1358 "2021-11-17T22:34:10Z")

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It’s branding, if you watch the popcast on it it’s super easy. Took a few takes on a fixie though :joy:. My knuckles did not appreciate it!

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### Author: ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1359 "2021-11-17T22:35:05Z")

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god damn it lol, i have 4 doc pop yoyos, but only know one of his tricks (that im aware of), i need to fix that ratio

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### Author: ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1360 "2021-11-17T22:35:36Z")

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I’m at a 1 to 1 on that haha

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### Author: ![mistakenbigfoot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mistakenbigfoot/32/155761_2.png) [@mistakenbigfoot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mistakenbigfoot)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1361 "2021-11-26T18:31:57Z")

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Throwing the Survivalist today. Honestly, I’ve almost spent as much time fishing out the string as playing so I really sympathized with @Almonds experience. I’ve experimented with various string thickness and for me it plays best and snags the least with alphaline or kitty fat, normal actually snagged the most 🤷🏾‍♂️. Paying attention to tension and how the yoyo is returning helps a lot, the snags have become less over a week. Im also much better at feeling out if it’s going to snag or if it’s just a temporary hold that I can throw out (like with pocketwatch).

It’s been challenging so far but I’m warming up to it a lot. Returned to the L.Wing and bought a Butterfly this week and it’s given me a newfound appreciation for how my style of play changes to suit the yoyo. Afterwards I did find myself returning to the Survivalist.

Edit: wanted to shoutout this comment which was also helpful in improving my play, as I was makin da zines I slowed down and paid attention to how I was popping it up and over, repeating good form only like I do when practicing loops.

> [@Myk\_Myk](#):
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> I was just playing with my Survivalist. Try guiding the yoyo around more than you do with a looper. Slow that part down a bit, less of a snap to it.

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#### Post date: [November 26, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1362 "2021-11-26T21:46:44Z")

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> [@mistakenbigfoot](#):
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> Throwing the Survivalist today. Honestly, I’ve almost spent as much time fishing out the string as playing so I really sympathized with @Almonds experience.

Yeah I hear you. I needed to make the response pretty aggressive to make sure it was reliable for the material used. That can translate to some serious snags at times.

The smoother you play, the less of a problem it becomes. You will definitely get used to it and it won’t occur often.

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### Author: ![mistakenbigfoot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mistakenbigfoot/32/155761_2.png) [@mistakenbigfoot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mistakenbigfoot)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1363 "2021-11-26T22:28:52Z")

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It’s funny you call it aggressive, the thing punched me in the face and put a small chip in my tooth!

It’s making me more mindful of the these things (string tension, flow etc.) which feels like it’ll only help me improve as a player. All in all I’m having fun with it and the build feels really nice so I’ll take a bit of extra rowdyness in exchange, does feel good to know it’s not 100% me.

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#### Post date: [November 26, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1364 "2021-11-26T22:55:51Z")

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> [@mistakenbigfoot](#):
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> It’s funny you call it aggressive, the thing punched me in the face and put a small chip in my tooth!

Whoa!! :open_mouth: I’m sorry that happened, mate!

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### Author: ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1365 "2021-11-26T23:07:31Z")

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The good thing about a Survivalist is that it can take as much as it dishes out. So next time it happens just whip it into the street for its insolence.

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### Author: ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1366 "2021-11-26T23:28:54Z")

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I ran over mine with my car for its insolence. Stubborn thing still worked.

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### Author: ![FireMind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/firemind/32/122767_2.png) [@FireMind](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FireMind)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1367 "2021-11-28T17:20:46Z")

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I’m curious on yalls preferences on what the “sweet spot” for a fixie is? Like ultra snappy, little more long spin for some 1a elements, or a little of both? I know @edhaponik has often commented that if he can hit spirit bomb then subsequently go into a shoot the moon he feels like his response is right about where he wants it. I’m probably in that same ballpark I like that best of both worlds spot which isn’t always easy to find on a fixie. Anyway I know these preferences are subjective no right or wrong answer just interested to hear some of yalls takes on it

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### Author: ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1368 "2021-11-28T18:16:17Z")

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I like snappy for lighter fixies (\<60g) and a little more loosey goosey for heavier fixies (\>60g). Not many fixies purposefully exceed 60g, so most of mine are nice and snappy.

Edit: this is because heavier to me means more 1a possibilities. And I will say that even though it’s under 60g, the jumbo-two-coasters-on-an-axle that I have from @aironish will also remain loosey goosey because it’s fun as heck!

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### Author: ![chaselawrence97](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@chaselawrence97](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chaselawrence97)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2021, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1369 "2021-11-30T01:04:59Z")

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/a/b/7ab90bb42becbc489103e68f5a9373b192cb1eba.jpeg " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cQ_nOvC24)

Just gonna leave this here

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#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1370 "2021-12-01T07:43:07Z")

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EDIT: Designed a matching counterweight, and didnt want to make a new post.

Just about done designing a 3D printed fixed axle and matching counter weight. I’ve done an unresponsive before with the Luftverk spacer kit and that was a blast. @DCorella and I did a big organic yoyo with massive hollow chambers inside to optimize weight distribution. This time I’m working on a relatively simple high walled fixed axle yoyo designed for 0A play.

When approaching the counterweight i started by modifying the actual profile of the yoyo until I had a style that matched visually while maintaining optimal weight for the yoyo. Most counterweights are about 15-19% of the yoyos they’re used with and I designed the counterweight to be about 17% of the total weight of the yoyo.

Yoyo and Counterweight are both going to be printed using Markforged Onyx filament, which is a very strong carbon fiber impregnated nylon; and the yoyo will be using a 1/4" aluminum axle. I think these are going to be a banger, but the only thing I’m not sure about is the size of the response dips (currently 3.5mm x 1mm w/ a angle cut in the bottom). I guess I’ll learn when I get it printed!

Yoyo Specs:  
Diameter - 56mm  
Width - 32mm  
Gap - 2.75mm  
Weight - 51-53g

Counterweight Specs:  
Height: 30.5mm  
Width: 19.9mm  
Weight: 8.7g

 ![NYY - 56x32 FA + CW Front](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/a/8/3a83e76d1631b26ad623bc6aa5d1853edb90e775.jpeg)  
 ![NYY - 56x32 FA + CW Ortho](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/e/1/be113aff88f63d345d25afe9c94f04cabe6af380.jpeg)  
 ![NYY - 56x32 FA + CW Half Ortho](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/b/1/2b12e9757305e293e9f81d6432243624a2ca6c3a.jpeg)

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### Author: ![chaselawrence97](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@chaselawrence97](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chaselawrence97)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1371 "2021-12-01T16:55:27Z")

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Episode 2 out now! What is a fixed axle?  
https://www.youtube.com/embed/VZupCErWYPM?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLo0Cq-Ed8MdzWDv6bS7xFkD2m3R1xK2RJ

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### Author: ![chaselawrence97](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@chaselawrence97](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chaselawrence97)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2021, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1372 "2021-12-02T10:16:37Z")

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Anyone have a wood z they would sell me?

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