# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive)

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1149 "2021-06-08T12:35:45Z")

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This is why Tom Kuhn bearing yoyos used I size bearings, they are about the same diameter as a No Jive axle. Raider/ 720 bearings are K bearings slightly larger in diameter to I bearings but smaller than A bearings. I put 720 spacers and a K into a Spinstar and it can really shoot moons.

> [@What are you throwing today?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-are-you-throwing-today/296879/4868):
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> Has anyone else done this mod with their [Spinstar](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/spinstar-yoyo-by-yoyofactory) or [‘Play YoYo’ Collection](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/play-yoyo-collection-by-yoyofactory)? Replaced the transaxle with a Loop 720 axle, SPEC XS bearing and green 720 spacers (basically USA 720 guts). This Spinstar happens to be Zipline branded and laced with [kot-n]. STM for days with this setup. Great modern responsive plastic alternative, surprise @yyfben2.deactivated hasn’t issued these as Spinstar GTs. This was what I was talking about @AKYOYOMIKE [20200527\_162016] [20200527\_161915]

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**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1150 "2021-06-08T12:49:43Z")

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Yeah I’d love to see a TK (SB5 lol?) which went back to that bearing (and the amazing gap adjustment of the SB2) but with pad recess and lower overall weight.

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**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1151 "2021-06-08T12:50:42Z")

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> [@TheThrowingGnome](#):
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> Is there a bearing that is smaller than a size A? Isn’t it barely bigger diameter than a large axle?

There are smaller axles, too!

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**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1152 "2021-06-08T13:02:05Z")

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> [@edhaponik](#):
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> but with pad recess

That is kind of the limitation of the latest Tom Cat reissue they did last year with the brushed rims. The Turbo Disc aren’t as grippy as silicone, I did put in a Core Co pad and it just gave it some vibe. New Turbo Disc and fresh cotton play the best, but Turbo Disc don’t last very long. Then I let the collector in me keep it on the self. I might just have to tune this one back up today.

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**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1153 "2021-06-08T13:22:54Z")

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> [@anon5341354](#):
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> Moons are odd, they loop upward and slip a lot on the end of a throw.

I don’t find this to be true. The Delrin you made and the Moonshine 1 I had, both STM with ease and feel great doing it to me.

I do prefer the A bearing to the C for 0A in general, though. It would be interesting to see some experimentation with smaller bearings as 0A gains popularity and yoyos evolve to suit that style.

> [@Exmime](#):
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> New Turbo Disc and fresh cotton play the best, but Turbo Disc don’t last very long.

It would be interesting to create a recess for a silicone pad in a Roller Woody. Have you tried the super glue mod to make the pad last longer?

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**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1154 "2021-06-08T13:29:09Z")

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> [@Myk\_Myk](#):
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> super glue mod to make the pad last longer?

I might have to try this. Just superglue over the linen I take it.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1155 "2021-06-08T13:30:53Z")

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Right. It worked pretty well as I remember.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1156 "2021-06-08T13:32:49Z")

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dont we all?

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**Author:** ![FireMind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/firemind/32/122767_2.png) [@FireMind](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FireMind)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1157 "2021-06-09T00:14:55Z")

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Got this absolutely beautiful zebrawood recently from @IS_Yoyos this thing is amazing

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1159 "2021-06-17T03:08:31Z")

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The DocPop/Zipline Day Tripper is so perfect for 0a.

Been practicing redirects that DocPop posted earlier this year.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/b/b/cbb3c4bc958f3f6fcbc17edd72639969efe53053.jpeg "PopCast Yo-Yo Vlog: Redirects") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zmnk_md8sw)

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1160 "2021-07-07T19:48:28Z")

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Stoked to snag a Wood Z in maple. Basically my dream collaboration TMBR x Zipline. Buttery smooth and nice smaller size making for a great edc

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1161 "2021-07-14T04:42:08Z")

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I hope this will be of help to someone. I saw a video by Doctor Popular about using silicone grease on responsive yo-yos. I was in Lowe’s and picked up a tube of this grease. I have used it in the past for it’s intended purpose of lubing seals in plumbing fixtures and I knew it was good quality. The Traxxas grease that DocPop was using in the video runs between $7 and $9. This is a larger tube and cost me $3.99. When my Daytripper needs a response adjustment, this is what I use. It’s easy to find in the plumbing department of any Lowe’s, Home Depot and probably most well-stocked hardware stores.The brand name is Danco.  
Watch Doctor Popular’s video on how to apply.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1162 "2021-07-14T12:40:34Z")

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I’ve used this exact same grease, I second all of this.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1163 "2021-07-14T12:47:28Z")

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Do you have a link to @DocPop ’s video on lubing the bearing?

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1164 "2021-07-14T12:58:25Z")

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Maybe it’s this one?

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/5/9/1594b4c1378f43db1383dad505d27bd17433f966.jpeg "Responsive Counterweight #1: Maintenance") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSu2Vhb4aLg&t=260)

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1165 "2021-07-14T21:21:58Z")

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He talks about the grease in another video on his YouTube channel. I wasn’t sure how to add a link to a video. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-3u5bKEis4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-3u5bKEis4)He talks about the grease about halfway into the vid.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1166 "2021-07-14T22:55:20Z")

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I went out and got this silicon lube today, and it works wonders on my daytripper. Thanks for the tip!

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**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1167 "2021-07-15T05:39:45Z")

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How is the Confusion for modern responsive stall/kick flip type tricks? Looks like it would be pretty good at it

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1168 "2021-07-15T06:27:33Z")

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It looks like it would be OKish. It’s a bit heavy and the gap a hair too wide for my liking. This is theoretical though, I haven’t played one.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1169 "2021-07-15T15:24:56Z")

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The gap didn’t bother me as much as the weight.

@bheinz63 The Confusion is a great yoyo, but if stall/kickflip tricks are what you’re wanting to do I’d go with an Alleycat, Weekender, Daytripper and other’s I’m forgetting about. Something lighter in weight with high walls. Not saying stall/kickflip tricks aren’t doable on a Confusion, they certainly are, there are just many others on the market that handle those types of tricks, or were designed for them.

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