# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1129 "2021-06-07T23:31:39Z")
Yeah the Weekender would be my recommendation as well. I didn’t realize you were looking to buy. Haven’t tried the Daytripper. ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1130 "2021-06-07T23:34:54Z")
> [@anon5341354](#): > > All I really want is a light metal responsive that plays like a fixed axle yoyo. The new batch of Day Trippers should be dropping in a couple weeks. These are 47g slimline Weekenders with 650b Pads and greased A bearings. The shape is very reminiscent to a Duncan Pro Z, but its machined 6061 by One Drop. These are definitely pocketable 0A slayers. ![16231087845206885208835732426575](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/d/6/3d6f12cf10f55a81dbdad5654126742898a9e939.jpeg) ![16231088460598443168794852361869](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/1/5/a159bb5faa0457bde37e78002756a14a4b2eb444.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Big](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/big/32/81788_2.png) [@Big](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1131 "2021-06-07T23:36:02Z")
Weekender is the closest thing I have tried. It’s my favorite bearing responsive. That may change though once my day tripper arrives. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1132 "2021-06-07T23:52:11Z")
@anon5341354 the Weekender is awesome, but I like the Delrin one you made even better. Buy the Day Tripper or Weekender, sure, but make yourself a Delrin one like the one you made for me. ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1133 "2021-06-07T23:55:49Z")
> [@Myk\_Myk](#): > > Weekender is awesome, but I like the Delrin one you made even better A Delrin Weekender is basically the Pop Art, but with 21mm Snowtires > **[Rain City](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/rain-city)** ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1134 "2021-06-08T01:56:53Z")
> [@Myk\_Myk](#): > > the Delrin one you made even better. I don’t think it’s all that great, personally. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1135 "2021-06-08T02:02:29Z")
Did you ever play it as a responsive? I got you to make it for me after playing the one you made for @TheThrowingGnome. He loved it too. Maybe he likes the Weekender better now though, I think he might have gotten rid of his? It came as an unresponsive, but I only play mine responsive. It’s one of my favorite yoyos. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1136 "2021-06-08T02:13:55Z")
> [@Myk\_Myk](#): > > Maybe he likes the Weekender better now though, I think he might have gotten rid of his? Still got it. Still love it. Not better or worse than Weekender, just different. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1137 "2021-06-08T02:45:13Z")
I’ve used an Alleycat 650B and I don’t really like it. That’s the only modern responsive I’ve used. Based on all the specs of the others, nothing else will cut it either. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1138 "2021-06-08T02:47:55Z")
You like the Weekender. Trust me. WAY different than 650b. Plays like wood. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1139 "2021-06-08T02:58:34Z")
I believe that it would play pretty well for sure. But A bearing can never cut it for me. The diameter is too large. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1140 "2021-06-08T03:02:27Z")
Huh, the A bearing is too large? I’m confused. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1141 "2021-06-08T03:05:17Z")
Yes. A bearing is too large. C is even worse. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1142 "2021-06-08T03:11:46Z")
I guess you’ll have to make your own with a smaller bearing then? Otherwise, you could lube up a flea. (Imagine if a non-yoer read that!) ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1143 "2021-06-08T03:12:29Z")
Is there a bearing that is smaller than a size A? Isn’t it barely bigger diameter than a large axle? ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1144 "2021-06-08T03:15:30Z")
Indeed there are many smaller. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1145 "2021-06-08T03:18:06Z")
I’ve got some smaller bearings. I can’t remember what they came out of, but there didn’t use to be as much of a standard. Here ya go, Glen, just wait for a restock on these, buy a metal lathe, and make your own! > **[Mini Panzer Parts](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/mini-panzer-parts-by-sturmpanzer?variant=32494151827530)** > > The Sturm Panzer Mini Panzer is the smallest functional unresponsive yo-yo ever made. It's incredibly small, and so are the parts. And when parts get that small, they can sometimes get lost. But not to worry! Sturm Panzer has you covered with all the... Yeah, you can find all sizes, they don’t have to have ever been used in a yoyo, necessarily. Instock Spec XS: > **[YoYoFactory Bearings](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/yyf-yoyo-bearing?variant=18870471620)** > > These are replacement bearings for your YoYoFactory yo-yos.The Small Spec Bearing is a high quality Size A (5x10x4 mm) stainless steel bearing yo-yo for small bearing compatible yo-yos.The Large Spec Bearing is a Size C (.250 x .500 x .187) and fits... ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1146 "2021-06-08T11:05:02Z")
Is the string “locking in” with stall something you all feel is necessary? Do you find that you can land kickflips without the string locking in with a stall? ---
**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1147 "2021-06-08T11:37:34Z")
absolutely not necessary. you can land kickflips on a super wide gap without the string “locking”. just a different feel. i find it easier to regenerate consistently out of a flip when the string hasn’t locked in at all. re: tiny bearings - a raider bearing/spacer setup in a modern responsive (i.e. cherry bomb but with 650b pads or what have you) would be an interesting modern responsive experiment. the reason most people gravitated to c bearings was that as gaps got wider, you got kickback with smaller bearings. but if you’re talking about going as thin as typical wood gaps, it wouldn’t be an issue. (i’ll grant you i’ve never had a prob w a-size either.) for me, my heart is in wood throws and metal/plastic will always be a cool but crude approximation. in this case, you can’t improve on IMperfection. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1148 "2021-06-08T12:06:09Z")
> [@edhaponik](#): > > absolutely not necessary. you can land kickflips on a super wide gap without the string “locking”. just a different feel. That’s what I figured. Thanks. > [@edhaponik](#): > > re: tiny bearings - a raider bearing/spacer setup in a modern responsive (i.e. cherry bomb but with 650b pads or what have you) would be an interesting modern responsive experiment. the reason most people gravitated to c bearings was that as gaps got wider, you got kickback with smaller bearings. but if you’re talking about going as thin as typical wood gaps, it wouldn’t be an issue. (i’ll grant you i’ve never had a prob w a-size either.) Yeah. Whatever sized bearing (or wooden axle) you use, it’s vital the gap matches it. C bearings are really not suitable for strict 0A setups because it is impossible to tune the gap to suit them for responsive tricks. Sure you can do responsive tricks on them, but they behave weirdly. Moons are odd, they loop upward and slip a lot on the end of a throw.They will only ever be suitable for hybrid responsive/unresponsive setups (unless you make the diameter of the yoyo huge). A bearings still present issues in my opinion. The diameter is still too large and the gap can’t be tuned well enough without either causing a minor slip/thud at the end of a throw, or it being too wide for perfect Moons. I don’t think it’s bad, just not quite there. Cramming bearings with lube only goes so far, and I think it’s a sign of a fairly weak overall responsive setup. Maybe a bit of light lube is fine, though . [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228.md?page=56) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228.md?page=58)