# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/986 "2021-01-29T21:05:09Z")
Sometime the TAWTAW does seem to take a while for the string tension to get just right at the axle for a snappy response. Have you tried pinching the string just above the yoyo then spinning the yoyo to tighten the tension around the axle, then throw 10-20 powerful sleepers? Usually this does the trick for me. ---
**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/987 "2021-01-29T21:15:47Z")
While I prefer the PockeHt, TaW should still be a pretty great throw for Moons/Hops if you’ve already got them down on a wider shape. Definitely a great all-around pocket 0a throw in my experience and I’ve never encountered any prohibitive design characteristics. Doesn’t take much w setup or break-in to throw something off, but that’s true of most woodies. Here’s the basic shape on it if it’s at all helpful. Def a pretty forgiving/easy shape for me but that’s dif for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Malachi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/malachi/32/14039_2.png) [@Malachi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Malachi)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/988 "2021-01-29T22:33:14Z")
This reminded me of the Alley Cat video. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/2/1/f21895b73a65f82c7693527575ab602b2d886b2b.jpeg "All-Saints Alleycats (I Don't Wanna Die)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ual3aUceA4c) ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/989 "2021-01-29T22:40:32Z")
YES, That’s another good one, just fun play ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/990 "2021-01-29T22:43:37Z")
That horizontal at the end tho! Wow! ---
**Author:** ![FireMind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/firemind/32/122767_2.png) [@FireMind](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FireMind)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/991 "2021-01-29T22:46:46Z")
I love how modern responsive has a very organic stop and go feel to it really pays tribute to old school styles of play. While unresponsive can be interesting to watch to me it always has this artificial slickness to it like its almost too clean at times. Idk maybe I’m just letting nostalgia get to me lol ---
**Author:** ![fount](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fount/32/113186_2.png) [@fount](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fount)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/992 "2021-01-30T02:49:04Z")
> [@TheThrowingGnome](#): > > Have you tried pinching the string just above the yoyo then spinning the yoyo to tighten the tension around the axle, then throw 10-20 powerful sleepers? I’ll try this out! @edhaponik Thanks for the video. I just tried some STMs with my other fixies and realized they all range in looping up/down/about-right. I think my TAW is still on the extreme of looping down, no matter what I do. But watching your vid and thinking about this made me realize I was looking at my STM ability through rose-colored glasses…My level of skill is a significant factor here. Still, even with bad form I can see my different yoyos looping differently so I also have to gain the skill of setting up yoyos correctly. That seems challenging with these TMBRs because I can’t imagine one has all that much control over gap width without really messing up the response. Alas, I suppose this is another joy of throwing wood. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![fount](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fount/32/113186_2.png) [@fount](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fount)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/993 "2021-01-30T02:55:16Z")
(Apologies for the double post…) Woah, what a cool video! Thanks for posting it. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/994 "2021-01-30T03:13:16Z")
> [@fount](#): > > I also have to gain the skill of setting up yoyos correctly. That seems challenging with these TMBRs because I can’t imagine one has all that much control over gap width without really messing up the response. Almost no fixies, at least wood ones, give you much if any control over the gap. You can adjust the string length… However, my suggestion is to practice these tricks a lot on the yoyo(s) you have the most luck with. Once you feel good about things, try them on the others. A lot is just learning the yoyo. I’ve gone back and forth doing STM on my 70+ gram SW Ballsys, and my SW Burly (a mini wood) yoyo, and at first when I switch after doing them on one, I can’t do them on the other at all! However, after a bit I can, by just adjusting to the yoyo. As you said, once you get more solid, I think you’ll be able to find it on different yoyos more easily. I never could do them on the OG Alleycat, though! I’d like to try again, but I’ve either lost it, or forgot I traded it. ---
**Author:** ![FireMind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/firemind/32/122767_2.png) [@FireMind](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FireMind)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/995 "2021-01-30T23:01:12Z")
![20210130_125940](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/3/b/43bbce95dc91de50f8c71c579adfd8b3b3a4407c.jpeg) Oldest of the old schools 1930s Duncan Oboy Was honestly surprised how smooth this thing plays ---
**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/996 "2021-01-30T23:48:40Z")
Heyyy! [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/8/a/e8a1d970bb7d9f507e461b07667fa23c6f3f569e.jpeg "Spirit Bomb on a 70+ year-old Duncan O-Boy") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa6b3DAiroM) Lord how was this almost a decade ago lol?? ---
**Author:** ![FireMind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/firemind/32/122767_2.png) [@FireMind](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FireMind)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/997 "2021-01-31T00:07:38Z")
So epic I still find myself watching that over and over now and then. I can hit double or nothing maybe on a good day on this thing but you are a true master my man lol ---
**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/998 "2021-01-31T00:11:45Z")
It’s a surprisingly good yoyo, even for being so old! ---
**Author:** ![FireMind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/firemind/32/122767_2.png) [@FireMind](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FireMind)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/999 "2021-01-31T00:38:58Z")
I was pleasantly surprised how generous the gap was A lot of old yoyos seem so tight barely give you any room to work with ---
**Author:** ![Abide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abide/32/63541_2.png) [@Abide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Abide)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1000 "2021-02-02T23:33:24Z")
That looks really easy! (said while applying ice pack to forehead) ---
**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1001 "2021-02-03T01:07:47Z")
On some level a lot of fixed axle is “as easy as you allow it to be”. Like most of it is the naïveté or hubris you have in assuming you can hit a trick and the other big part is getting out of your own head/way. Technique is a smaller piece of the puzzle and “effort” is mostly counterproductive (at least in the way I think of it). I have to understand a trick (whether I’ve hit it before or no) but beyond that it’s a race to let go of it. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1002 "2021-02-03T18:53:49Z")
A fun trick. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/3/6/936688aa7c3037d9d18d999b89079fd75d60689a.jpeg "Palm Stall with Wrap") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yry_Io7F7Y) Full description of tutorial 👇 > [@Easy Fixed Axle Tricks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/easy-fixed-axle-tricks/332845/47): > > Palm Stall with Wrap 1.Throw a breakaway and proceed like you are going into a 1.5 Instead of 1.5 let the sting land on the back of your throw hand and let the yoyo come around like you are going to do a palm stall. As the yoyo swings around your hand let it pass through the triangle formed by the string and continue around your throw hand again. As it continues the wrap around your hand you’ll need to allow the string to slide which will make the string coming off your throw hand a bi… ---
**Author:** ![Ne0phy73](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ne0phy73/32/163412_2.png) [@Ne0phy73](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ne0phy73)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1003 "2021-02-04T12:12:09Z")
Hmmm, it looks like that nice carpet is used for yoyoing purposes (or scenery) or is that just coincidence? :wink: ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1004 "2021-02-04T13:04:58Z")
> [@Ne0phy73](#): > > nice carpet Carpet in the bedrooms for the win! ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/1005 "2021-02-04T13:18:55Z")
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