# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive)

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sven/32/604919_2.png) [@Sven](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sven)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2581 "2024-12-30T07:18:54Z")

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Thanks you for sharing your experience with me. 😊

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**Author:** ![Kalic00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@Kalic00](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kalic00)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2582 "2024-12-30T12:39:21Z")

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Tracking for mine says its out for delivery 😁 i know what I’m doing tonight then

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**Author:** ![Ardeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ardeus/32/594405_2.png) [@Ardeus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ardeus)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2583 "2024-12-30T12:46:44Z")

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Excited for you to play with them!

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**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2584 "2025-01-02T22:06:06Z")

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Finally getting these Mutagens down!

[https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1197347564438167625/1324498560871563335/IMG\_9147.mov?ex=67785ee8&is=67770d68&hm=3078ddb102f0a6a526badb23d02a8d4bbf52f786963704e1a81d8a02c8edfa9b&](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1197347564438167625/1324498560871563335/IMG_9147.mov?ex=67785ee8&is=67770d68&hm=3078ddb102f0a6a526badb23d02a8d4bbf52f786963704e1a81d8a02c8edfa9b&)

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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2585 "2025-01-04T00:29:17Z")

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/6/3/a639b2898ccf9e1a32dc1d6ada3a0fd5371ae6b7.jpeg "Fixed axle yoyo 0A") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBLs0N0E4f0)

Happy Fixed Friday!

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**Author:** ![SleeperHit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@SleeperHit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SleeperHit)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2586 "2025-01-06T01:37:56Z")

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Recently returned to yoyos. My interest in 0A is piqued since last time I yoyoed, bearings were just becoming mainstream. So I dug out an old BC Rainbow to try the basic stalls. Problem is, it doesn’t stall. It’s freely spinning on the wooden axle like it was meant to do, to do string tricks within the allotted time.

Is there some kind of modification/technique that won’t damage this too yoyo much or am I better off getting a more suitable yoyo?

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**Author:** ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2587 "2025-01-06T01:43:02Z")

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maybe I’m not understanding but stalls just require the yoyo to stop spinning so it’s ability to free spin during other tricks shouldn’t matter. you can stall any responsive yoyo. can you be more specific about what you are attempting and what is happening?

edit: if you mean you land in a trspeze and it doesn’t stall, you have to start it responding before it makes contact with the string to get it to partially wind up

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**Author:** ![SleeperHit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@SleeperHit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SleeperHit)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2588 "2025-01-06T01:56:30Z")

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> [@Splizacular](#):
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> you have to start it responding before it makes contact with the string to get it to partially wind up

Thank you, that is the key I was missing.

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**Author:** ![Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nic_from_adelaide/32/272038_2.png) [@Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nic_from_Adelaide)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2589 "2025-01-06T02:19:06Z")

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Most likely you’re just throwing too hard. Made this vid a while back to demonstrate this, you can still use the spin time for regular tricks ie round the world then on the return catch it in a stall instead of returning to the hand

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/a/1/3a1d428ef7ec44041621a30de21d1a3ec7576da6.jpeg "drop starts") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za86U6VTS4Y)

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**Author:** ![Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nic_from_adelaide/32/272038_2.png) [@Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nic_from_Adelaide)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2590 "2025-01-06T10:02:57Z")

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/5/6/55661957482fde46487dfb7d744ce7850fbe76c9.jpeg "fixed axle hydr0A") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XXZb0-e7Gw)

Need longer string and a lot of practice, but I think I’m getting the hang of hydr0A

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**Author:** ![Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nic_from_adelaide/32/272038_2.png) [@Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nic_from_Adelaide)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2591 "2025-01-07T08:45:56Z")

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/c/6/9c66952ca8e6f1ca2752acd364de537bf62c53f1.jpeg "fixed axle hydr0A zippers") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi-qmBQngC0)

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**Author:** ![BladeWieldingQueen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bladewieldingqueen/32/347554_2.png) [@BladeWieldingQueen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BladeWieldingQueen)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2592 "2025-01-10T04:00:33Z")

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Hey so this is a general question and potentially a question given a lot here? I really enjoy playing with my stock Butterfly, but it chews through bulk poly like nobody’s business and that makes me hesitant to use a nicer string on it.

Would lube help that in any way, is there a specific blend of string that would help (IE cotton, or cotton/poly) or is it the thickness? I would love to enjoy my Butterfly a lot more without changing the string every 2 seconds.

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**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2593 "2025-01-10T04:07:15Z")

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Oh no! you may have a string cutter!

how much have you used it? after a little while the starbursts will wear down, and should go through less string, but if it’s still ripping through string after much use, you may just need to get a new one.

as for string, I’ve had the same Dark Pink Sochi Fat on my butterfly for a long time.

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**Author:** ![BladeWieldingQueen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bladewieldingqueen/32/347554_2.png) [@BladeWieldingQueen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BladeWieldingQueen)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2594 "2025-01-10T04:12:11Z")

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I’ve had it for like 3 months ish? I have used it on and off, but without fail it chews through the string within the hour. Still does the same now, it’s chewed through at least 6-7 bulk poly strings.

They’re cheap so I’m happy to get another if this one is defective but I was hoping it was that and not user error!

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**Author:** ![Pun1sh3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pun1sh3r/32/193125_2.png) [@Pun1sh3R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pun1sh3R)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2595 "2025-01-10T04:22:16Z")

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Are you throwing super hard sleepers to get the longest spin time possible?

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2596 "2025-01-10T04:22:21Z")

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I’m not the most knowledgeable when it comes to butterflies, you may want some more opinions.

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**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2597 "2025-01-10T04:31:54Z")

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Rub the axle a bit with some denim or take a sacrificial string and rub it on the axle a bunch to buff it a bit. That might help remove anything rough. Generally any cheap poly will be fine

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**Author:** ![BladeWieldingQueen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bladewieldingqueen/32/347554_2.png) [@BladeWieldingQueen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BladeWieldingQueen)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2598 "2025-01-10T04:37:45Z")

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Generally I throw a mix of hard and relaxed throws with it, I’ve tried not throwing it as hard to no avail, still cuts even if it lasts that tiny bit longer.

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**Author:** ![BladeWieldingQueen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bladewieldingqueen/32/347554_2.png) [@BladeWieldingQueen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BladeWieldingQueen)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2599 "2025-01-10T04:38:26Z")

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Okay, I’ll try that later with some bulk poly and see how well it works! Tempted to get another Butterfly anyway just to compare too. Plus these things are deceptively addictive to collect as many here know LOL.

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**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2600 "2025-01-10T04:41:55Z")

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definitely sounds like theres a burr in the axle. take off the string and inspect the axle, if theres anything sharp in there thats why its burning through string. with normal play on my butterfly, bulk poly lasts for a LONG time since I’m not doing much outside stalls and shoot the moons

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