# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 117
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2340 "2024-10-01T03:29:25Z")
Beyond has the cool unknown and glow, Easter, etc versions. Target around this time sticks butterfly and imperials into the holidays. The target exclusive pink is always nice. Walmart used to carry them but they swapped them for off brand knockoffs that suck. The rainforest site has the purple exclusive color There’s a Japan store with some awesome exclusive colors too. Sam sells butterfly as well Cracker Barrel of all places often has butterfly Ace hardware sometimes has them Of course Duncan has butterfly too The only place that really doesn’t have them is YoYo expert funny enough but they don’t currently have any butterfly shaped fixed axle yo-yos listed. Which is why I feel fine name dropping alternatives for the one space that they absolutely don’t cater to in YoYo ATM. To be fair it’s silly to sell butterfly when you can pick one up out to breakfast so I get it. Hint hint collab on a yye version and make me eat my words. I’ll take moderation of this post as confirmation :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2341 "2024-10-01T03:48:54Z")
Thanks everyone! 🙏 @Pun1sh3R Brother Stall \> slide yoyo down to non-throwhand \> pull the string tight with both index fingers to create the “track” to slide the yoyo on \> turn it horizontally and tilt it down towards your throwhand so the yoyo will slide down the “track” towards your throwhand \> turn the yoyo back vertical and let it drop back into Brother Stall ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2342 "2024-10-01T03:50:29Z")
Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2343 "2024-10-01T03:58:26Z")
Ohh also while on your hunt there’s old and new versions of the butterfly and the newer version plays better. > [@An unofficial guide to identifying the new Duncan Butterflies](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/an-unofficial-guide-to-identifying-the-new-duncan-butterflies/365957): > > Hi all, there has been excitement surrounding the new Duncan Butterflies that are made with the updated mould. I feel this excitement is warranted because the new butterflies are great. They aren’t just great for the price, they are actually really great fixed-axle yoyos. I personally was not a fan of the previous Butterfly version, but I really like this new one. These seem to have been rolling out gradually for the past little while, so you may find some in a store near you. I found mine in a… ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2344 "2024-10-01T04:24:09Z")
Good to know; I appreciate all the info! ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2345 "2024-10-01T09:11:15Z")
My local Microcenter also had Butterflies and Imperials. ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2346 "2024-10-01T10:58:14Z")
Nailed it! ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2347 "2024-10-01T11:28:13Z")
> [@Captrogers](#): > > there’s old and new versions of the butterfly and the newer version plays better. Unless you get an original glitter Butterfly, or find a really good 60’s/70’s Butterfly 😁 The new ones are great, and a looonnnggg overdue refresh. It used to be, you never knew what you would get buying one. Halves misaligned, axles put in wrong and they cracked one of the halves, loose caps. They were all over the place. The new ones seemed to have fixed that, hopefully the quality stays high on them. BUT, they still haven’t beat the feel and play of the glitter Butterfly’s. They are amazing! ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2348 "2024-10-01T13:59:25Z")
true could always go to the auction site and search for some ---
**Author:** ![Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nic_from_adelaide/32/272038_2.png) [@Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nic_from_Adelaide)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2349 "2024-10-08T09:43:49Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/c/4/6c4f0ad36e51a12047596c9168d85b8367453635.jpeg "0A Hops #teamthrowyo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7SBiIB4ck) Just because I haven’t filmed any tricks for a while. @Jerrod I can’t believe how long you kept up with a trick a week ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2350 "2024-10-08T19:19:19Z")
My goal was a new trick every week and I didn’t always meet it, but yeah, I can’t believe it either haha. Nice trick! 👊 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2351 "2024-10-08T19:57:33Z")
Didn’t get a video, but I just landed my first stall! It was using a YYF One, that thing stalls surprisingly well! ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2352 "2024-10-10T22:14:22Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/d/5/2d5980f7731188068cb969a547fb8be3a53f18a6.jpeg "Fixed axle yoyo 0A") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vb69nlNMm8) ---
**Author:** ![Mooky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mooky/32/231674_2.png) [@Mooky](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mooky)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2353 "2024-10-11T01:40:47Z")
This thread needs more response ---
**Author:** ![Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nic_from_adelaide/32/272038_2.png) [@Nic\_from\_Adelaide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nic_from_Adelaide)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2354 "2024-10-11T04:52:42Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/f/4/6f441a60ce956c1769333564e6b1e9573cc08db9.jpeg "fixed axle fun #teamthrowyo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXJgZlYsM6Q) ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2355 "2024-10-13T15:44:29Z")
For someone starting out 0A, you’d tell them to get a butterfly, right? Well, what would you suggest they get next? Assuming they like it, and want to take it more seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2356 "2024-10-13T16:21:13Z")
another butterfly ---
**Author:** ![Yodaddyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yodaddyo/32/602050_2.png) [@Yodaddyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yodaddyo)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2357 "2024-10-13T16:56:58Z")
Butterfly can truly take you as far into 0a as you want to go. I’d say a butterfly is capable of 90-95% of all fixed axle tricks. However, I totally understand wanting something nicer/more durable. Layer infinity kasm is a really good option. It’s 3d printed and done very well. It also comes with a bearing so you can play it fixed or modern responsive. Not sure if there are any available but he does drops every so often or you could watch the bst. No-jive 3in1 is hands down the best, most classic fixie in my opinion. It’s got so much great history and it’s just plain fun. If you’re looking for affordable, you could try finding a legend wing or boho from YYF. Honestly, the bst is the best place to find a good fixie for a good deal. Not many places keep good ones in stock. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2358 "2024-10-13T16:58:21Z")
Thanks! I’ll keep them in mind! ---
**Author:** ![Yodaddyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yodaddyo/32/602050_2.png) [@Yodaddyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yodaddyo)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2359 "2024-10-13T17:08:15Z")
If you’re looking for top quality fixies, you’re looking for anything from spinworthy, TMBR, O.U.T (once upon a tree), wildwood, I’m sure there are others. Oh! How could I forget?! If you want a handmade, one of a kind, great playing wooden fixie. Ed Davidson @DLC is the guy to go to. You can find him on Facebook under Davidson lathecraft. He turns out a LOT of yoyos, so he always has them in stock. Some of his shapes are better for 0a, some are better for looping. All of them are awesome. I don’t think any of them cost more than $50 shipped, most are between 35-45 and shipping is always 5.50. Yeah. You should get one from Ed. I need to get another one from him soon. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228.md?page=116) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228.md?page=118)