# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive)

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)
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fun little spinny spanky thing  
happy FF!!!

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### Author: ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)
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I can do that!

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### Author: ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)
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Finally found my matching lil beeb.

Here’s a little something something.

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### Author: ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)
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my daughter wins find of the week! I’m cooking dinner, she comes in kitchen and is like “daddy, look what i found in my toys”. not sure where it came from but it must’ve been from before i knew/cared about yoyos. time to learn a new style!

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ok fixie sages, i need help. can’t get this damn thing to sleep, like even for a second. it keeps snapping back super responsive. i checked and string isnt double wrapped or anything. does it need a break in? should i change what I’m assuming is the stock string? or does it even matter? i was thinking i need a tiny bit of play in the axle loop but maybe not 🤷‍♂️

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### Author: ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2024, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2245 "2024-07-24T00:55:07Z")

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I’ll ask a silly question is the stock string cotton or Polly. I would swap the string with fresh cotton and if that doesn’t help take a sacrificial string and rub it in the gap a few times to smooth it out a tad to make it less responsive.

Maybe previous you used chapstick or something to make it loop or easy to stall or something. Just a few thoughts that come to mind.

It could also just be an old greasy string

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### Author: ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2246 "2024-07-24T01:08:15Z")

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Are you sure this isn’t one of those yo-yos that pin the string in with the axle? If that’s the case it will never sleep. I forget what that was called.

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### Author: ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)
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Pegged. Even if it is cut the string out and you can use it like a regular YoYo

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### Author: ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2248 "2024-07-24T01:19:35Z")

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> [@Captrogers](#):
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> I’ll ask a silly question is the stock string cotton or Polly

def seems like cotton

> [@Captrogers](#):
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> I would swap the string with fresh cotton and if that doesn’t help take a sacrificial string and rub it in the gap a few times to smooth it out a tad to make it less responsive

ill see if i have any cotton. i think i have at least one somewhere

> [@Captrogers](#):
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> Maybe previous you used chapstick or something

nah this was never used. I’m sure it was either a stocking stuffer or party favor but it has just been sitting in her toy box for lord knows how long

> [@Slestak75](#):
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> Are you sure this isn’t one of those yo-yos that pin the string in with the axle

I’m sure. i took the string off when i was checking to make sure it wasnt double wrapped.

thanks for the suggestions, I’ll keep working on it and I’ll see about new string and softening up the gap with old string or some fine grit sandpaper

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### Author: ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2249 "2024-07-24T01:30:04Z")

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That looks to me like one of the remakes they made. I’d bet the axle is too rough. Those remakes don’t have any QC in my experience. More for show.

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### Author: ![vinniekowalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vinniekowalski/32/192899_2.png) [@vinniekowalski](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vinniekowalski)
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Triple sure it’s not from tight tension? Sorry if this seems stupid but fixies can be quite sensitive to that

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#### Post date: [July 24, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2251 "2024-07-24T01:33:54Z")

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If that’s the case it can be smoothed out just need a sacrificial string to wrap around the axle and rub back and fourth a dozen times or so.

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> [@GnarlyCharlie](#):
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> That looks to me like one of the remakes

it def has to be a remake. zero chance it’s original. im workin on sanding and new string while i watch tv. I’ll report back

edit: welp only used 1500 but now ive got zero response. guess you’re right and this one just doesnt wanna be a player. bummer

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I bet this would be a great player if you disassembled it, gave it an 8 card gap, and maybe hit the walls with some 220.

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#### Post date: [July 24, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2254 "2024-07-24T02:40:17Z")

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I was thinking the same thing but wasn’t sure how much effort the guy wants to put in

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> [@Captrogers](#):
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> wasn’t sure how much effort the guy wants to put

i mean arent we duty bound to make anything throwable if its within our power to do so? I’m sure i read it in the code somewhere 😁

> [@GnarlyCharlie](#):
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> if you disassembled it

cut the axle?

> [@GnarlyCharlie](#):
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> gave it an 8 card gap

not sure what you mean

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Is the axle glued in on those or just press fitted? By 8 card gap I mean you adjust the gap of the yoyo to be the width of 8 playing cards stacked.

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not sure about the axle. i assumed it was glued. if it was press fit itd wiggle loose without too much trouble if i pry at it right? also looks like the gap is already exactly 8 cards thick

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Ya probably. May require some twisting but you’d know if it was glued pretty fast. I’ve never had good experiences with those remake of Duncan vintage yoyos. It’s too bad too, because if they were good it would be so awesome. The wood butterfly @Lido let me borrow was oddly vibey.

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It sounds like this is playing pretty much how it’s supposed to, these have a stupid amount of centre weight. The remake probably should have been called the Classic rather than Tournament.

You can leave it as is and throw it 70s style, check out this video for the technique (1 or 2 throws to setup before smashing out the sleeper hard as you can)

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/b/c/cbc31591feb6f8755893a8d4d79c56fa09ca55b8.jpeg "Vintage Video: Learning tricks from the experts on National Yo-Yo Day") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUH-rugMX6U)

My preferred fix for Tournaments is just to sand down the face. They can lose at least a millimetre from each face and still have a snappy response.

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