# The 0A Thread (Fixed Axle & Modern Responsive)

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [June 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228 "2019-06-20T15:36:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2080 "2024-06-13T01:51:44Z")

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I use a sewing needle to remove the c clips but some of them come press fit in with no clips. They can still be removed but you need to pierce them to leverage out.  
I can [sell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sold-out-upcycled-homebrew-mr85-bearing-blanks/396966) one that I have made with epoxy. Pm me if you would like one. 😊

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**Author:** ![FrankDeath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/frankdeath/32/271970_2.png) [@FrankDeath](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FrankDeath)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2081 "2024-06-13T02:10:47Z")

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I have 20 MR85 bearings to destroy in the process of removing the shields before I declare defeat and buy one.

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**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2082 "2024-06-13T02:13:31Z")

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I think after over a year I finally figured out varials! I’ve landed a couple here and there before, but it was like 1/100 success rate. Now I can land every 1 out of 5! Landed it maybe a dozen times in the past 30min.

My biggest mistake leading up to now was I would pop the yoyo up and then pull my throw hand back, trying to use that string only to rotate the yoyo, trying to leave my non-throw hand in the trapeze the whole time motionless. I’m here to tell ya, you have to pull your non throw hand finger out from the trapeze and the yoyo will rotate! Cant believe how long that trick took me to learn.

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**Author:** ![Yodaddyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yodaddyo/32/602050_2.png) [@Yodaddyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yodaddyo)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2083 "2024-06-13T03:13:16Z")

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I just dropped super glue right onto the shield and it worked great. Mine were press fit so I just put on a drop and spread it out with a toothpick. Tried to make sure I got some into the holes and gaps between the race and the shield.

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**Author:** ![Yodaddyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yodaddyo/32/602050_2.png) [@Yodaddyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yodaddyo)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2084 "2024-06-13T03:15:01Z")

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Nice dude! Congrats! Varials we’re one that took me forever too. Definitely one of the best tricks

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**Author:** ![Solarbeam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/solarbeam/32/242678_2.png) [@Solarbeam](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Solarbeam)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2085 "2024-06-13T10:09:55Z")

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No RBC yet. Waiting for the B/S/T stars to align with my bank account.

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**Author:** ![MuppetLabs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/muppetlabs/32/289661_2.png) [@MuppetLabs](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MuppetLabs)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2086 "2024-06-14T12:55:11Z")

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I am getting Royce! He will also be named Dr. Teeth.

I wanted a No Jive after seeing Ed’s videos and blog, but was worried that I’m not skilled enough to get it tuned well. So despite declaring to myself a week ago that I wasn’t buying any more yoyos for a while, I caved and got the last unclaimed one.

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**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2087 "2024-06-14T13:15:18Z")

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These should be coming tuned to ed’s skilled standards. However, if you ever want to tinker, this is a good starting place to be aware of the various was to tinker with a No Jive: [https://www.sector-y.com/uploads/kinopah/NoJiveTuningGuide.mp4](https://www.sector-y.com/uploads/kinopah/NoJiveTuningGuide.mp4)

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2088 "2024-06-14T13:59:53Z")

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Awesome, thanks!

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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2089 "2024-06-15T02:34:15Z")

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/0/7/207b3fa6d588f6d1586570cecdba89fc2e211e1d.jpeg "one handed “Takeshi Rocks” stall - fixed axle yoyo 0A") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wHvBFxxnDA)

one handed “Takeshi Rocks” stall

Happy Fixed Axle Friday!

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**Author:** ![Ardeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ardeus/32/594405_2.png) [@Ardeus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ardeus)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2090 "2024-06-16T17:27:37Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/RhyWYiT6d6c/maxresdefault.jpg "Father's Day DNA") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhyWYiT6d6c)

Just sneaking in this quick Father’s Day pullstart DNA on the Button.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2091 "2024-06-18T19:28:56Z")

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Midday 0a break.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2092 "2024-06-19T02:11:30Z")

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/4/9/4497ecc06077119a2f7d879ff66c11b51c64c2e4.jpeg "Y-flip // fixed axle yoyo 0A") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OnYKS-ERjs)

Y-flip

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2093 "2024-06-19T03:18:03Z")

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![bf22ce92-4c5c-467f-b783-da7d4e6937f7](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/0/3/8035013dc4f71145024e5679741b0c50d682b6ab.jpeg)  
Deeper State action several thousand miles away from home, just had to bust out the eiffel tower in front of the Kings Island Eiffel Tower 🙂

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2094 "2024-06-19T03:25:51Z")

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Neat sister park to kings dominion down in doswell va which I’ve been to so many times in my life time.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2095 "2024-06-19T03:27:18Z")

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Is there a difference between a responsive bearing throw and a fixed axle when it comes to play?

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2096 "2024-06-19T03:29:48Z")

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Spin time mostly your gonna get maybe 3-5 seconds on a fixed axle vs a bearing going much longer. Also usually response. Both are friction but often a modern responsive with a bearing is going to be a pad while a fixed axle is going to be the gap and inside of the YoYo. Sometimes response holes or even turbo disks or something along those lines.

Play wise they are the same in tricks mostly but it’s a right tool for right job thing. You can do any trick on a fixie but it’s gonna be harder than a bearing.

Play wise your gonna lean allot more into stalls on a fixed axle and more strong tricks on a bearing but that’s a super generalization

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2097 "2024-06-19T03:32:09Z")

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But both are capable of all the same tricks, right? Is there an advantage/disadvantage tradeoff? Do those who use fixed axle just like the nostalgic feel of it?

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2098 "2024-06-19T03:35:22Z")

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Stall like tricks are going to feel easier on a fixed axle. While bearings will help more with a string trick or picture trick.

You can do any trick with nearly any YoYo but some like the challenge a classic butterfly shaped fixed axle adds

Also there’s a whole 0A style with stalls as the primary function that while bearing yo-yos can do really leans into the advantages of a wood butterfly shaped yoyo

Some argue fixed axle looping is easier but once you get past basic loops you need a bearing to really excel as the learning curve ramps up hard and the grind is already brutal.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-0a-thread-fixed-axle-modern-responsive/304228/2099 "2024-06-19T05:24:17Z")

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Is it normal to beat the crud out of your knuckles when practicing stalls or am I messing something up?

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