# Terminology (floaty, fast, vibe, etc) and what design influences them? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [January 23, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/terminology-floaty-fast-vibe-etc-and-what-design-influences-them/63255 "2014-01-23T21:14:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Crow-yo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Crow-yo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Crow-yo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/terminology-floaty-fast-vibe-etc-and-what-design-influences-them/63255/1 "2014-01-23T21:14:21Z")
Seen a lot of terminology and descriptions bounced around, often in reviews, but could use some help understanding more in depth what they mean. In general I get what “fast on the string” means etc but more descriptions would be helpful to relative newbie like me. Fast on the string, floaty, vibe, etc… For example I’ve read something about a larger/heavier throw carrying more momentum btu also being a “fast player” which doesn’t really make sense to me. I figure a smaller/lighter throw would be a faster player in terms of less momentum being thrown around. Maybe it means faster spin? More importantly, especially as we consider what throws to get, what design features influence certain types of the above behaviors? What shapes, sizes, weight distributions, materials, etc. make a throw faster, more stable, better for horizontal play, etc. Having this info available would be a great help so we could zero in on a suitable throw for the style of play we envision ourselves getting into. Thanks for any help. ---
**Author:** ![Eastfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eastfield/32/1158_2.png) [@Eastfield](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eastfield)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/terminology-floaty-fast-vibe-etc-and-what-design-influences-them/63255/2 "2014-01-23T22:23:14Z")
A heavier throw might spin with a lot more momentum, meaning a more powerful spin. Not necessary faster spin, but with more momentum, so it’ll take more effort to slow it down. Think a bicycle wheel vs those spinwheels you find on a spinning-cycle. Depending on the shape, a heavy throw also might be a fast throw. Though the heaviest out there tends to (with exceptions) be not the fastest. Shape play a big role here. The lightest throws are easy to get up to higher rpms, though the low momentum means that it’ll slow down faster aswell (with exceptions, aswell). Vibe describe the vibration you feel when you let a yoyo spin at high rpms and you put your finger against it. The less vibe, the smoother the yoyo will feel on your finger. It really have to do with how symmetric the two halfs of the yoyo are put together. It’s never going to be 100% symmetric, though in 98% of the times, it’s more than good enough. Float is probably the hardest thing to describe with words, though a yoyo with high float tends to feel like it have a lot of “hangtime” in the air between transitions. Someone’ll probably ellaborate. A rim weighted throw tends to be stable, and a throw where the weight is evenly distributed on the rim tends to be floaty. Good for horizontal play generally means very stable, and with an open stringap. Lighter throws tend to be faster. Note the TENDS TO BE. There’s no rule without exceptions. ---
**Author:** ![aznnboyaZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aznnboyaz/32/651830_2.png) [@aznnboyaZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznnboyaZ)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/terminology-floaty-fast-vibe-etc-and-what-design-influences-them/63255/3 "2014-01-23T22:37:33Z")
Quoting myself here > [@](#): > > The last thing I kinda wanna mention actually. > 3 maybe 4 types of weight distribution. > > Rim, middle, center, and if this counts even. > > Rim weight is like this > > [https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSy0vncyYMACx8JpcJxr9674-jKN9uLKuW9pKjG81xxh8HkYSo5](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSy0vncyYMACx8JpcJxr9674-jKN9uLKuW9pKjG81xxh8HkYSo5) > > [https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKsb4k5kD2jsh\_SEOjXGbHjg3FmQjxIjPSrXrkKno8-jjAf9kN0A](https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKsb4k5kD2jsh_SEOjXGbHjg3FmQjxIjPSrXrkKno8-jjAf9kN0A) > > Why I chose these 2? It shows Material difference too. > The Sleipnir, Made of 7075 can be made thinner and thicker in other areas without compromising Durability. the Sasquatch is 6061 and is still very thick rimmed, but isn’t quite as thick due to the less dense material not being able to be molded quite as thin on the inside, and as thick on the outside without compromising durability. > Rim weighting is typically the most stable 🙂 > > Middle weight. (My personal favorite 🙂 ) > > [http://cdn.yoyoexpert.com/715/yo-yo-thumb.jpg](http://cdn.yoyoexpert.com/715/yo-yo-thumb.jpg) > > [http://birdinhand.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/g/e/generalyo-m10-clear.jpg](http://birdinhand.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/g/e/generalyo-m10-clear.jpg) > > So, the Cascade. see how the thicker area happens to be right between the rim and hub? > That gives it such a lovley flowyy feel on the string. > > The M10, is middle weighted, but the V shape makes the weight even more in the middle, if you can get what I mean? (If not, then let me know, I’ll draw a picture to help you all understand!) > > Center weight. > > I don’t have too many examples of this. > but generally older plastics have this > > But this is a VERY drastic example, the 3yo3 cloud 9 > > [http://www.highspeedyoyo.com/Pictures/Reviews/Cloud9/03.jpg](http://www.highspeedyoyo.com/Pictures/Reviews/Cloud9/03.jpg) > > Not as stable, but has a really cool, super light feeling. very interesting to play. > > and Even weighting. as in the same thickness through the entire thing. > > The Avalanche and Mr. butcher bother appear this way, but the avalanche seems just a little ore rim weighted. > So here is the Mr. Butcher > [http://cdn.yoyoexpert.com/932/view/images/11.jpg](http://cdn.yoyoexpert.com/932/view/images/11.jpg) > > This is a really interesting one. It has Characteristics of Rim weighting and center weighting. > But I feel like This gives it a bit more heft on the throw, and light on the string. > Super fun, and very cool! > > So, Where am I going with this? > Shape, mixed with these weightings, can all create something really cool. > But Specs also help. > The Overdrive, large dia, low weight, and rim weighted, V shaped > Plays nothing like a messiah, small, heavy, small dia, and still V shaped. > > Hopefully someone will read these ramblings haha! > And I hope you guys can choose yoyos more easily with this, information! There is more to it, but this is generally how things are. ---
**Author:** ![Crow-yo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Crow-yo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Crow-yo)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/terminology-floaty-fast-vibe-etc-and-what-design-influences-them/63255/4 "2014-01-24T03:40:41Z")
Great info, I appreciate all the help.