# Ten things I learned in the first 15 seconds of owning a "real" throw. 

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [May 10, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536 "2015-05-10T03:35:30Z")
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### Author: ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/21 "2015-05-12T16:26:30Z")

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> [@GregP](#):
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> If you’ve been binding, you’ve been holding a loop. Not sure what else to call it. The part that your non-throw-hand is pinching when you do the bind.

Oh sorry man, I thought you where talking about holding a loop while snap starting.

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### Author: ![narmada808](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/narmada808/32/1610_2.png) [@narmada808](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/narmada808)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/22 "2015-05-13T03:47:12Z")

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I would argue that starting a dead yoyo is the most important technique to learn. It makes it so that the only thing that can slow down a practice session is a knot. This is particularly nice when you’re working on a trick in which you make errors soon after the throw.

I’ve found that a push/hand start is MUCH easier to do than snap starts, but that might just be because I got the push start down first and have since neglected my snap starts 😛

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### Author: ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/23 "2015-05-13T16:32:28Z")

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I agree. That’s one reason I’m trying to go ahead and get them down.  
It’s starting to work ok (maybe 10% of the time) but I just can’t get enough spin yet to really bind it back well.

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### Author: ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/24 "2015-05-13T16:59:09Z")

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Gotta make that loop super long when the spin is super low.

Also remember that with hand starts, the spin direction is reversed so the bind direction is also reversed. Can’t easily do a normal front bind on hand starts.

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### Author: ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/25 "2015-05-13T17:22:46Z")

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Oh and when you learn to bind, also learn to do a “safety throw” :))

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### Author: ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/26 "2015-05-13T17:24:56Z")

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> [@da5id](#):
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> Oh and when you learn to bind, also learn to do a “safety throw” :))

So important!

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### Author: ![AngryGumball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/angrygumball/32/683872_2.png) [@AngryGumball](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AngryGumball)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2015, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/27 "2015-05-14T04:53:34Z")

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When I first read this thread, it actually made me think of when I got my first “real” yoyo back in 1995…being a Duncan Imperial. I always thought of yoyoing as “dribbling” or “mom & dad yoyoing” (You all know exactly what this is lol). When I got my string cut to size and did my first drop, I noticed it just stayed down there and spun for a couple seconds. I then realized the following:  
-Dribbling no longer works as the string is just looped around the axle, causing the yoyo to just spin  
-Realizing the spin, I realized I needed to find a way to get it to unwind faster so it will spin more and have enough momentum to pull it back up.  
-Attempting a faster “drop” I tried a fast downward thrust/dribble…realizing this will not work, the yoyo is just going to spin out  
-Not sure how it happened but I somehow on my own discovered the ‘overhand throw’ where it rolled off the hand nicely and got it back up.

From this point I did my first ‘trick’ being the sleeper. Walking in the mall while my parents dragged me into the ‘boring’ stores, I waited outside continuing to practice and eventually learned how to walk the dog.

So in the end…I learned that there was more to yoyoing than the basic “mom & dad style” yoyoing that I initially thought it was all about…and seeing how long we can keep it going.

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#### Post date: [May 14, 2015, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/28 "2015-05-14T12:52:28Z")

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> [@da5id](#):
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> Oh and when you learn to bind, also learn to do a “safety throw” 🙂

Oh how I wish someone gave me this advice when I started. Would have saved me a fat lip or two. 😛

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### Author: ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/29 "2015-05-14T14:25:17Z")

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Yeah, snags from a breakaway are the worst.

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### Author: ![Songwind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/songwind/32/7969_2.png) [@Songwind](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Songwind)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/30 "2015-05-14T18:16:09Z")

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> [@da5id](#):
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> Oh and when you learn to bind, also learn to do a “safety throw” :))

I’ve certainly smashed myself in the elbow and once on the chin. The problem is… you have to bind after your safety throw!

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### Author: ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/31 "2015-05-14T18:17:23Z")

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> [@Songwind](#):
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> I’ve certainly smashed myself in the elbow and once on the chin. The problem is… you have to bind after your safety throw!

Yeah! What’s up with that?!

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### Author: ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/32 "2015-05-14T18:41:34Z")

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It’s true that it doesn’t solve the problem in this thread, which is about getting a good normal front-style bind.

The safety throw is more useful when you’ve done OTHER binds (trick binds in particular, but even sidestyle binds) and you want to reset your yoyo back to “safe for a hard throw!” status. And a good front bind is key. Once you have your normal front bind “mastered”, it’s virtually impossible to mess up in terms of getting a snaggy knotty bind. Then it becomes your “safety throw” bind.

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#### Post date: [May 14, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ten-things-i-learned-in-the-first-15-seconds-of-owning-a-real-throw/74536/33 "2015-05-14T19:29:00Z")

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Oh, good, that’s what I’ve been doing. And I rarely get a snaggy bind that way, like you say.

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