# Takeshi matsuura?

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/takeshi-matsuura/309060>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [October 7, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/takeshi-matsuura/309060 "2019-10-07T14:02:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![yoyo-matt-ratt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo-matt-ratt/32/69567_2.png) [@yoyo-matt-ratt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo-matt-ratt)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/takeshi-matsuura/309060/1 "2019-10-07T14:02:32Z")

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is takeshi still competing? because i haven"t seen him all year.

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**Author:** ![AndreBoulay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andreboulay/32/69662_2.png) [@AndreBoulay](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AndreBoulay)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/takeshi-matsuura/309060/2 "2019-10-07T15:04:12Z")

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I actually asked about this recently to some friends in Japan.

From what I understand Takeshi has decided to stop competing as he has not been happy with how the judging system rewards technical difficulty, etc. Instead he is focusing his efforts in other directions that he feels will help promote technical play. He recently ran an event called Chain Reaction in Tokyo which from what I understand was more of an ‘exhibition’ rather than a formal yoyo contest in an effort to reward tech.

[https://www.instagram.com/p/B1Gy45ZhTj9/](https://www.instagram.com/p/B1Gy45ZhTj9/)

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**Author:** ![Marm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/marm/32/46204_2.png) [@Marm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marm)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/takeshi-matsuura/309060/3 "2019-10-08T02:23:24Z")

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If he did stop competing that would be a shame. And I agree, I’m not a big fan of the judging system either. But if he did leave competing at least when left with on of the greatest freestyles of all time (2018 worlds)

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**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/takeshi-matsuura/309060/4 "2019-10-08T02:48:19Z")

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I watched both his and Evans freestyles from 2018 multiple times today and I can see where his frustration comes from. While I’ll be the first person to say competitors need to construct their freestyles with judging in mind, it sucks to lose to someone’s choreography instead of their yoyoing.

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**Author:** ![Astralis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/958977/32.png) [@Astralis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Astralis)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/takeshi-matsuura/309060/5 "2019-10-08T02:51:20Z")

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This. Takeshi did a exhibition event with a couple of great players including Hakamata Takumi, Jason Liu, Kentaro Mannen and Shinji Saito. Takeshi himself did a ridiculous total of 9 freestyles by himself at the event in all styles except 4a, it’s was great to see an exhibition event of that kind and I really hope it opens the possibility of more of these kind of things in the future.

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/takeshi-matsuura/309060/6 "2019-10-08T03:24:19Z")

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> [@Durfee](#):
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> it sucks to lose to someone’s choreography instead of their yoyoing **TWICE**.

You forgot somethin

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**Author:** ![shatterFX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shatterfx/32/66476_2.png) [@shatterFX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shatterFX)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/takeshi-matsuura/309060/7 "2019-10-08T05:30:56Z")

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Evan actually had a higher tech score than Takeshi. Yuki had the highest tech score in the finals

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/e/1/0e10a0f8b1c764e8854c78aae5494c3a8a14d0e1.jpeg)

Edit: at a second look though I see where he lost an entire point to Evan based on “space use,” which basically cancelled out the point he had over him for execution and control.

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/takeshi-matsuura/309060/8 "2019-10-08T05:34:57Z")

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Takeshi had higher execution, control, trick diversity, and construction

Evan had higher space use, choreography, and showmanship, all definitely performance evals

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**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/takeshi-matsuura/309060/9 "2019-10-08T05:35:00Z")

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So again it’s less about pure yoyoing difficulty.

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**Author:** ![shatterFX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shatterfx/32/66476_2.png) [@shatterFX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shatterFX)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/takeshi-matsuura/309060/10 "2019-10-08T05:39:27Z")

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My point was if you completely remove performance evals, then Evan still wins (against Takeshi) based on tech score (and Yuki would have taken 1st). Just playing devil’s advocate (I actually enjoyed Takeshi’s freestyle the most in the entire contest except for maybe Hajime’s 4A routine).
